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[phildonnia]

How different would Numerology be in a base 8 system, ...

Base 8, eh? Hmm, Well for starters

25 * 1 = 25
25 * 2 = 52

Oh, here's a better one:
1463 * 1 = 1463
1463 * 2 = 3146
1463 * 3 = 4631
1463 * 4 = 6314

 

[RussDill]

Dionysus aboard his ship. Exekias 540 B.C.


One of the surnames of Dionysus -- which, by the way is where the name Dennis comes from -- was the "betesticled one." Hmm ... Must have had something to do with all those grapes I guess? While here's an excerpt from Chapter 5 of my book concerning the visions I had in Northern California (Sonoma County), which is normally referred to as The Wine Country ...
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Yes, I suppose why bother refuting what anyone said. Instead, how about you post something completely meaningless and unrelated, oh, you did, ok.

 

[Iacchus]

Beginning of Chapter 5

Oh, in case anyone would like to understand a little more significance to Dionysus being aboard his ship, here are the first three paragraphs of Chapter 5 ...


In The Spirit

1) On the night of March 2nd, 1987, I had a very unusual experience. As I lay asleep, I was roused to consciousness, to find myself awake, but not in my material body. I possessed my full faculty to think but, found myself in my spiritual body instead: i.e., I was In the Spirit (similar to St. John's words in Revelation 1:10).

2) I awoke to find myself standing aboard an ancient Greek sailing vessel, most probably Greek, tossing and rolling amidst the open sea. The ship was wrought of solid gold throughout, and had a huge rectangular sail, fully spread over a single mast. I stood on the deck for a moment, and peered across the open sea, as the ship sailed into the night.

3) And I remembered going down below, to find myself amongst several men—walking around in their white underwear—in what appeared to be a locker room. I don't recall what happened next, but I either fell back asleep or woke up immediately afterwards (in my material body). I was staying with my mother at her house at the time, in Santa Rosa, California. It was also the first time I experienced being aboard a ship in my dreams.

 

[Iacchus]

Yes, I suppose why bother refuting what anyone said. Instead, how about you post something completely meaningless and unrelated, oh, you did, ok.

Give me half a chance and I might just do that. Besides, can you explain to me why this is any more meaningless than the majority of "trash" (trashing?) which has been posted so far?

That was your 749th post by the way, which is not good. It's basically a declaration of war, and in effect says your "heritage" is a whore (with respect to me).

 

[RussDill]

Give me half a chance and I might just do that. Besides, can you explain to me why this is any more meaningless than the majority of "trash" (trashing?) which has been posted so far?

You keep claiming your dreams are somehow meaningful because they are so weird. Lemme tell you, your dreams are TAME. You should see some of my dreams (or some dream journals people have who have problems with dreams). Also, for some reason, you insist that you've had visions, when they'd much explained much more redily by dreaming, since you were asleep before, and asleep after. Just because you are dreaming about the place where you fell asleep, does not mean you are awake (I myself can recall many times falling asleep in church, but still seeing an after image of everything around me, I suppose trying to fool myself into thinking I was still awake)

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Really Russ, that was really pretty cool the way he responded to the ' Brass Balls ' award, with the tale about his father's testicles..


Let's give credit where credit is due...

 

[c4ts]

I once had a spiritual vision where I had to track down and kill James Bond on a rocket pack.

Wait, that was no vision, that was real!

 

[Iacchus]

I think he has proven that he is either a troll or extraordinarily credulous. I don't think I need any more proof either.

How about both, if that's at all possible? Or, somewhere in between?

 

[RussDill]

Really Russ, that was really pretty cool the way he responded to the ' Brass Balls ' award, with the tale about his father's testicles..


Let's give credit where credit is due...

I do find the humor, and there's always value in that.

 

[Iacchus]

Why should your work tag have any special cosmic meaning? If your work tag didn't work out for the example, I'm sure you would have used your address, your phone number, part of your social. The possibilities are endless.

Looks like one of those laundry instruction tags to me...

I fail to see how any of this links up to the picture in any way, you just drew three arbituary shapes, and drew numbers in them, you even have the same number in there twice. You don't even have 10. Also, go back and read your bible, there seem to be more than 10 commandments in there.

If that isn't cheating and smudging it, I don't know what is.

you still have 4 twice, and 10 doesn't apear

You squared them for no other reason to make this happen.

You put the 0 in the middle for no other reason than to make this happen, and its nothing special

x0y * 11 is always going to equal xxyy. Also, you chose 11 for no other reason than to make this happen.

Really? Why not do it with latin, or english, or hebrew, why choose greek? Because it works in greek, that is the only reason.

I've wasted enough of my life reading chapters of your book.

If it wasn't for the badge; and if it wasn't for the vision; and if it wasn't for the name Ennis coming up in a book of names -- which, was very specific when stating it was Greek for "the 9th" -- then indeed, there would be no need to bring it up here.

As for choosing the language (it wasn't a matter choice really, it just came up that way), the name Dennis is Greek in origin and comes from Dionysus.

 

[RussDill]

If it wasn't for the badge; and if it wasn't for the vision; and if it wasn't for the name Ennis coming up in a book of names -- which, was very specific when stating it was Greek for "the 9th" -- then indeed, there would be no need to bring it up here.

As for choosing the language (it wasn't a matter choice really, it just came up that way), the name Dennis is Greek in origin and comes from Dionysus.

What I'm talking about here is the number of events in your life that occured, but had nothing to do with this, or the number of things you read, but had nothing to do with this. You aren't looking at your huge number of misses, you are only looking at your hits.

Also, I'll point out again, you claimed that you are using what was available to the "old testament" jews and the early christians. Arabic numerals as we know them today, and as you use for your numerology did not exist for them. There was no 444,. no 123, no 10 backwards as 01. You'll even find that the word "zero" never apears in the bible, because they had no concept of it. Its all 4 and 20, etc.

 

[El Greco]

And so correlates with the vision of the man I had prior to the rebirth experience: whose testicles came into view

Hmmm... could you draw a picture or something ?

the name Dennis is Greek in origin and comes from Dionysus.

Now that I think of it, there is indeed a connection. Dionysus was the god of wine, among others. Have you been drinking ?

 

[Iacchus]

What I'm talking about here is the number of events in your life that occured, but had nothing to do with this, or the number of things you read, but had nothing to do with this. You aren't looking at your huge number of misses, you are only looking at your hits.

No, it actually begins with making the first connection and, if it wasn't for the events which occurred along the Russian River above, I wouldn't have discovered a whole myriad of connections -- over the course of ten years or so -- and I wouldn't be here writing about it. In fact if you read the book, you would understand how extensive these connections really are.

Also, I'll point out again, you claimed that you are using what was available to the "old testament" jews and the early christians. Arabic numerals as we know them today, and as you use for your numerology did not exist for them. There was no 444,. no 123, no 10 backwards as 01. You'll even find that the word "zero" never apears in the bible, because they had no concept of it. Its all 4 and 20, etc.

Afraid not. I never said this. I did say these were the only materials available -- i.e., that I understood were standards -- at the time. Now that's a big difference.

Matter of fact, how else do you think it could have possibly happened, without me doing a tremendous amount of research? (which I didn't).

However, I will admit that I didn't understand otherwise, that these weren't standards back at that time either (Biblical times).

 

[Dancing David]

Give me half a chance and I might just do that. Besides, can you explain to me why this is any more meaningless than the majority of "trash" (trashing?) which has been posted so far?

That was your 749th post by the way, which is not good. It's basically a declaration of war, and in effect says your "heritage" is a whore (with respect to me).

I would say that you are having visions from the usual source of visions, the human brain. And while they have personal meaning for you, I don't feel that they point to any universal truths. They most likely point to personal truths for you.
My interpretation of collective unconsious is that we all have an unconsious which is influenced by culture, experience and biology, so we each have a unique view into the 'unconsious'.

If you had a vision that was about some knowledge or material that could not be garnered through any other means accesible to you then I would fell that there was something other than persoanl validity to your vision experiences.

You will note that i am not trashing your experience, just setting it in a different frame. As I recall the oracle at delphi interpreted the draems of others, because they were able to interpret the personal context of the dreamer.

 

[Dancing David]

There was no 444,. no 123, no 10 backwards as 01. You'll even find that the word "zero" never apears in the bible, because they had no concept of it. Its all 4 and 20, etc.

I am in agreement about the zero thing, while the hebrai used letters as numbers they did not use a place holder, they did eventualy have a thousands mark.

yod=ten and aleph=1, the two are different letters. There are ways to create the numeral 123 and 444 but I would have to consult a kabbalistic dictionary to find the associated words. That is why in the bible it refers to methuselah living to be 999 there is some word that creates that value. That is the bible code.

 

[Nyarlathotep]

I once had a spiritual vision where I had to track down and kill James Bond on a rocket pack.

Wait, that was no vision, that was real!

I can one up you. I once had a dream...err..vsion that I p!ssed off Jeff Bridges and he hired a bunch of asassins to kill me.

I hope that wasn't real anyway

 

[RussDill]

No, it actually begins with making the first connection and, if it wasn't for the events which occurred along the Russian River above, I wouldn't have discovered a whole myriad of connections -- over the course of ten years or so -- and I wouldn't be here writing about it. In fact if you read the book, you would understand how extensive these connections really are.

You fail to see what I'm pointing out. What I'm pointing out are the millions of events in those 10 years that happened, but you didn't manage to find a connection in. Like the time you went to the store and the total was 12.43, or when you got 1.42 in change back. Or the time there were 5 cracks in the sidewalk, or the time when a green car went by, then a red one, or the time when 4 people were walking in a group. Not to mention the countless dreams you had in that time period that did not connect to anything.

What I'm saying is, I'm not surprised by reading the connections you have found over a 10 year period. They don't seem above coincidence or chance to me.

Afraid not. I never said this. I did say these were the only materials available -- i.e., that I understood were standards -- at the time. Now that's a big difference.

Matter of fact, how else do you think it could have possibly happened, without me doing a tremendous amount of research? (which I didn't).

However, I will admit that I didn't understand otherwise, that these weren't standards back at that time either (Biblical times).

so, how then does it make any sense to say things like "10 backwards in hebrew is 01" ten in hebrew would simply be ten (afaik), so 10 backwards would be ten. Also, something like 4 and twenty backwards would be twenty and 4, so it would be the same.

 

[RussDill]

I am in agreement about the zero thing, while the hebrai used letters as numbers they did not use a place holder, they did eventualy have a thousands mark.

yod=ten and aleph=1, the two are different letters. There are ways to create the numeral 123 and 444 but I would have to consult a kabbalistic dictionary to find the associated words. That is why in the bible it refers to methuselah living to be 999 there is some word that creates that value. That is the bible code.

my point is, is that many of the special meanings he applies to numbers only have special meanings because of the arabic place value system. Also, many of the "calculations" he does only make sense in the arabic place value system.

 

[Iacchus]

my point is, is that many of the special meanings he applies to numbers only have special meanings because of the arabic place value system. Also, many of the "calculations" he does only make sense in the arabic place value system.

Of course you base your whole argument upon the fact that God doesn't exist but, what if it were otherwise? What difference would it make then?

Also, did you know that if you take an equilateral triangle -- itself a symbol of universality -- that it can accomodate ten circles (or pennys as I said before) exactly? Thus it would seem to suggest the decimal system is "universally" derived as well.

While here there are four levels or "tiers" of circles, which are comprised of 4 circles, 3 circles, 2 circles and 1 circle respectively. Which can also be labled as 4 circles, 7 circles, 9 circles and 10 circles. So, do you see any possible connections between the number 479 and the "advent" of the decimal system? (the number 11 as well).

This is better is better illustrated by the 479 - Winpress symbol shown in the next thread, You Want More Proof (3)?

 

[Yahweh]

Also, did you know that if you take an equilateral triangle -- itself a symbol of universality -- that it can accomodate ten circles (or pennys as I said before) exactly? Thus it would seem to suggest the decimal system is "universally" derived as well.

I am a pretty sharp pool player, the Triangle Rack comfortably seats 15 round balls. Perhaps Base-15 is something you should look into?

In fact, you can use a simple summation set or recursive function to give you the number of you balls of your choice.

Iterations of the set would like this:

1
3
6
10
15
21
28
36
45
55
66
78
91
105
120
136
153
...

And so on.

By the way, I am completely in the dark as to how you found a logical connection between "Triangles can fit 10 pennies" and "the decimal system is universally derived".


Your numerology just isnt impressive.

Hey, did you know for any given existenct right triangle, the sum of the squares of each of its legs is equal to the square of its hypotenuse? Yep, its true!