YELLOW BAMBOO TEST!!!

[Kimpatsu]

Huh? If YB had documentation to the effect of a JREF test, then the protocol conformance is JREF's problem IMO.

In that case, I'm asking you to send me $1, but you screw up and send me $1 million instead. I'm keeping the money, because it's your problem.

 

[Placebo]

In that case, I'm asking you to send me $1, but you screw up and send me $1 million instead. I'm keeping the money, because it's your problem.

1. A prelim test (which YB didn't have going) only results in $10,000
2. If I send an employee of my company to fix your computer with a predefined process and he screws up the process - would that be my problem and yours?
Thank you

 

[Gr8wight]

1. A prelim test (which YB didn't have going) only results in $10,000

A preliminary test does not result in any money. It simply determines whether or not the applicant will procede to the official test.

 

[rwguinn]

1. A prelim test (which YB didn't have going) only results in $10,000
2. If I send an employee of my company to fix your computer with a predefined process and he screws up the process - would that be my problem and yours?
Thank you

You're missing the problem.
Protocol agreed to mutually. JREF made it plain that broad daylight (or well lit) test was absolutely non-negotiable.
Protocol was not even close to followed, and even I, a mere Engineer, had no problem figuring out that the test was absolutely not a JREF official test, prelim or otherwise. The guy wanted to test it himself, and did, failing to take the most basic precautions to ensure honesty.
end of story

 

[Kimpatsu]

1. A prelim test (which YB didn't have going) only results in $10,000
2. If I send an employee of my company to fix your computer with a predefined process and he screws up the process - would that be my problem and yours?
Thank you

1. I'll even wager $1; it's the principle.
2. If you send an employe to fix my PC, and the employee decides on his own not to follow protocol and fix my PC with his "hara" instead, then the debt to me is yours legally... but you can compensate yourself by suing the errant employee.
Put another way: You work for me; I order you to perform steps A, B, and C. You take it upon yourself to change that protocol. You are then personally 100% liable for all failures resulting from your stupid decision.

 

[TheBoyPaj]

I guess I cannot. A bit of lazy searching has brought this quote from the "Yellow Bamboo for real?"-thread:

I cannot find anything from before the "test".

Well, a bit more digging found the quotation which prompted my original statement. From Randi's July 2004 commentary:

Anyone who participates has to join their organization — don't ask me why — but there are no fees or human sacrifices involved.

and from Joko Tri's account of the events:

At the full moon ceremony I was introduced to Mr
Serengen the founder, who was very nice but seemed
kind of reluctant to actually do the test...

The full moon ceremony seemed to me a lot of hokus
pocus but I did it any way. The day after I ate only
white rice I made for myself and bottled water
I bought myself and that night I did the breathing
and mantra exercises which seemed a lot more of just
hokey pokey.

So, it seems he was initiated into the group, which included some "hokey pokey" and it would be reasonable to assume it included wearing the uniform.

 

[Placebo]

From Gr8wight
A preliminary test does not result in any money. It simply determines whether or not the applicant will procede to the official test

Hmm, okay. I understand that a 'prelim-prelim test' is sometimes done. If the preliminary test is the first of three, what is the second test called (the one prior to the final) ?
I was under the impression that the test immediately prior to the final was the 'preliminary test'. :|

You're missing the problem. [..] and even I, a mere Engineer, had no problem figuring out that the test was absolutely not a JREF official test, prelim or otherwise. The guy wanted to test it himself, and did, failing to take the most basic precautions to ensure honesty.
end of story

If you would take the time to read my words again, you'll find this:
A prelim test (which YB didn't have going) [...]
And in the previous post:
Nevertheless, this is NOT an official JREF test, and this is not the case. Joko was testing independently

So I do not know who you are arguing with, but it's not me.
Please try to read before putting your foot in things.

I simply mentioned a hypothetical situation, and apparently someone found it interesting to explore.
This is NOT what happened in the Joko case, as I already stated a couple of times by now.

From Kimpatsu
2. If you send an employe to fix my PC, and the employee decides on his own not to follow protocol and fix my PC with his "hara" instead, then the debt to me is yours legally... but you can compensate yourself by suing the errant employee.
Put another way: You work for me; I order you to perform steps A, B, and C. You take it upon yourself to change that protocol. You are then personally 100% liable for all failures resulting from your stupid decision

So, assume for a moment that Joko was an official JREF test rep - you're saying is that JREF would be at fault (due to Joko), and Joko could be sued by JREF in turn.
Is that right? In which case, I agree. Either way YB would be happy.

Nevertheless, this did not happen.
And it's a waste of time to speculate on these sorts of hypothetical situations.

REPEAT: This was a hypothetical discussion. I understand that Joko was NOT a representative in an official test of YB.

 

[Gr8wight]

Hmm, okay. I understand that a 'prelim-prelim test' is sometimes done. If the preliminary test is the first of three, what is the second test called (the one prior to the final) ?
I was under the impression that the test immediately prior to the final was the 'preliminary test'. :|

There are only two tests. The preliminary test is an informal test done by volunteers who are local to the applicant. If the applicant passes the preliminary test, they become the claimant, and proceed to the final test, which we can only speculate about, as one has never taken place before.

You may be misreading the part about the cheque for $10,000 being presented upon a successful completion of the test. If a claimant (that is someone who has successfully completed the preliminary test) successfully completes the final test, they win $1,000,000.00. As the JREF holds that money in bonds, not in cash, it could take up to thirty days to liquidate it. The successful claimant is immediately presented with a cheque for $10,000.00, as an act of good faith, and the remaining $990,000.00 will be paid within thirty days.

 

[Placebo]

Ah yes, that's my mistake.
Thanks Gr8wight

 

[pmurray]

It is also interesting to note- there are many tapes out there showing a successful knocking down but the only one people believe is the one where YB loses. Can you spell "Cognitive Dissonance"?

You mean the ones where the attacker is a YB practitioner? LOL! No more supernatural than the way they speak in toungues, or fall down under the power in the church I used to go to. Or for that matter people clucking like chickens when "hypnotised" by a stage hypnotist. When people are involved with a group, they generally behave as they feel they are expected to behave. A YB practitioner would not dare do anything else than fall over when a more senior YB person projected the power at him.

 

[SpencerFW]

You guys still serious? I thought we’d dealt with you on the “Yellow Bamboo Reprise” thread. I repeat…


“There's this lady (see attached image) who can do what's known as the Lion's Roar.

With intent, she draws on the chi in her dan-tien and forces it up through meridians to well up in her lungs. She then forcefully expels the chi past her larynx and out her mouth. This causes a loud roar - hence the name Lion's Roar.

With such an ability, this lady is able to overcome all adversaries. Many people think the Lion's Roar is a myth, but I've seen this lady do it on many occassions.”


To which I’d like to add, I can fa-jing out my perineal chakra! (edited to correct typo)

 

[Zep]

You mean, "she's got real bad breath"?

 

[teck49]

My goodness,

With those lungs, I'd pay her $50 to see her do her "lion's roar". Ofcourse that'll be $1.00 at a time until I fa-jing out of my parineal chakra too.

 

[SpencerFW]

My goodness,

With those lungs, I'd pay her $50 to see her do her "lion's roar". Ofcourse that'll be $1.00 at a time until I fa-jing out of my parineal chakra too.

Or you can just buy the DVD Kung Fu Hustle

 

[Kimpatsu]

Err... the link no longer seems to be working. I get an "Access Forbidden" message.
Can anyone help?

 

[Phrost]

You mean to the videos? I've got a few on Bullshido somewhere.

 

[Kimpatsu]

You mean to the videos? I've got a few on Bullshido somewhere.

I'm a member there, too. Do you have a link?

 

[c4ts]

Link, please!

 

[Amélie]

I desperately want to see the video of these yellow bamboo guys getting beaten, but all the links are down. Can anyone repost a working one?

 

[Kiless]

Will this influence any future Yellow Bamboo challenges?


6.6.
The JREF will NOT under any circumstances tolerate any behavior which they feel conflicts with the true spirit of the Challenge, which may be articulated quite simply, as follows: To see alleged paranormal claims tested fairly, in a controlled setting devoid of aggressive behavior, before a team of qualified observers whose sole purpose is to decipher fact from fiction.


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