Yale changes class names to be gender neutral

[bytewizard]

Female will now be Feshe. Or Femur.

 

[Senex]

Freshwoman sounds catchy!

Not as catchy as "naughty young lady."

 

[Belz...]

So a yeoman is a yeowoman now?

Wait, no. There's still "man" in there.


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[tyr_13]

I seriously have no idea what you're even trying to say anymore. You win, I guess?

I wouldn't classify a failure to communicate a point as 'winning'.

However, I did come up with what is hopefully a better way of explaining my main point. My concern is that posts are falling on both sides of a Poe. That is to say, some people honestly think that Yale choosing to replace 'Freshmen' in it's own use is from 'The Ministry Of Acceptable Free Speech' in that it's both over the top and an affront to the principles of free speech, while others are taking it to the extreme and comically missing the point intentionally, knowing that Yale's change isn't actually any affront to anyone. Further, that some think Yale might want to change these other words that are not actually gendered is concerning.

Seeking to find out which is which, I asked for actual criticisms rather than ask each post if if was joking or not (or joking on the square).

 

[Sherkeu]

I wonder how such discussions go in languages where the words themselves have genders?

Good point.

Newer words from English are somehow "gendered" in Spanish without any discussion. One version comes out the winner.

'Television', 'computer' and 'internet' went with female versions while 'telephone', 'modem', and 'wifi' ended up male. I don't hear anyone complaining!

For job titles, I think you'd have to have two versions.

 

[Foolmewunz]

I wouldn't classify a failure to communicate a point as 'winning'.

However, I did come up with what is hopefully a better way of explaining my main point. My concern is that posts are falling on both sides of a Poe. That is to say, some people honestly think that Yale choosing to replace 'Freshmen' in it's own use is from 'The Ministry Of Acceptable Free Speech' in that it's both over the top and an affront to the principles of free speech, while others are taking it to the extreme and comically missing the point intentionally, knowing that Yale's change isn't actually any affront to anyone. Further, that some think Yale might want to change these other words that are not actually gendered is concerning.

Seeking to find out which is which, I asked for actual criticisms rather than ask each post if if was joking or not (or joking on the square).

The thing is,... it's nearly a distinction without a difference. I said "nearly" so let's not get our unisex panties in a bunch. But someone who finds ****** jokes funny might just be a racist, too. Someone who gets a chuckle out of dragging out all these tired old plays on "-man" words probably thinks that they are cleverly satirical, and not forty year old rubrics from the early years of the feminist movement.

Snowflake-bashing is so easy. "Haw haw, lookit how upset all the homos/darkies/hippies/feminists/liberals/(choose one or more) are! You tell 'em Milo!" We've actually had Trump apologists here explain that they don't like him in the least but that he says things that upset the (choose one or more) so that's a good thing. It's a sport amongst conservatives.

 

[Darth Rotor]

A vagina, obviously.

Hmm, as a pilot, that's not obvious to me.

With the joystick right in the middle?

"Joystick" is gender neutral isn't it? Most genders get joy when it is involved.

Battery operated, or otherwise?

the Navy decided the complaints were too much and restored all the names.

I'll just say that naval tradition has meaning to people in the Navy, but I am utterly biased since that was my first career.

"As Chief Poop Deckman, I took great pride in ordering, "Man the Poop Deck!" No way am I changing that to People the Poop Deck. That just sounds silly!"

Yeah, I'm with you on that one.

Manual labour?

The president of Mexico? (That's about a 45 year old joke, courtesy of National Lampoon).

No, because "husband" there is an old word for "farmer"; nothing to do with "a married man". This is precisely the sort of illiteracy that wants to change "history" to "herstory".

Bosun mate? Coxswain?

Boatswain's Mate, actually.

For anyone who is seriously bothered by this - get a job, get a life, get some perspective, and shut up while you do. And you may want to duck too - that thing swinging toward your head is a pendulum.

This too.

Why not just go with Frosh, an existing word?

too easy