WTC-7 Was Taken Down Using Controlled Demolition

[ElMondoHummus]

To keep with normal habit of addressing lurkers and new folks, I'll address this to you all:

I'm not going to do a normal point-by-point rebuttal of this. Just go to 9/11 Myths, Debunking 9/11, and the sticky links at the top of this subforum for the rebuttals to "free fall", the "small (or no) fires" canard, the "steel buildings have never collapsed due to fire", thermite claims, and supposed testimony of explosions. Hate to say it, but Terral is just listing very old, recycled claims; most conspiracy fantasists have discarded a great many of them, or at least don't try to argue them with the same "evidence" that Terral is using (for example, that angled-cut image where he lables sections having "thermite residue". No such residue was ever found, and plus, that image is a famous one debunked many times over, including here in this forum (as well as here, and in other places (use the search function)).

Just rely on the standby sources that everyone else here does:

• The Sticky links, especially but not limited to the Gravy links, detailed rebuttals to many of the myths that are out there
• 9/11 Myths
• Debunking 9/11
• For claims made in the movie Loose Change, there's the Loose Change Guide, as well as the Internet Detectives debunk of the movie's claims.

You'll see that the conspiracy claims are unsupported, no matter how much extraneous, irrelevant argument Terral provides.

 

[Blender Head]

Reading the OP was like watching Britney Spears at a hair salon.

 

[JimBenArm]

So much stupidity.
So little time.

Please stop, Terral. You know nothing, and it shows.

 

[cisco]

One of the most willfully ignorant posts I've ever seen. A real affront to honesty everywhere.

The OP knows this stuff isn't true.

 

[Minadin]

This is absurd. You've literally not posted one correct thought whatsoever. And, you clearly don't know anything at all about structures or fire engineering. If I can point out glaring, obvious, and basic errors in your entire line of reasoning and you're just going to gloss over them as though I didn't, what motivation should I have to continue this exchange?

 

[Terral]

This WTC-7 OP Paper Has Never Been Posted On The JREF Board

Hi DGM:

DGM >> Atention. He posts the same thing on other sites too. It's SPAM if you ask me.

Posting my WTC-7 thesis paper on other Boards does NOT give these JREF writers and readers the opportunity to offer their advocating or opposing arguments on THIS JREF Board and on THIS Conspiracy Forum. What’s the matter? Is there such a thing as TOO MUCH 911Truth for DGM? :0) No sir. SPAM is reposting my work in other JREF rooms, or even pasting my WTC-7 OP Presentation on other JREF Conspiracy threads; which anyone can verify is NOT happening on this Board. Many of you simply have no WTC-7 thesis paper from which to draft your rebuttals and counterproposals to my Opening Post presentation. Your idea of ‘debunking’ (heh) is pasting three pathetic sentences to my threads, which only works to prove you have no case at all.

GL,

Terral

 

[twinstead]

The OP knows this stuff isn't true.

That is why it is so sad. Terral is fully aware that upon close examination most, if not all, of what he posted can be shown to be crap, yet he posts it anyway.

The old famous throw a bunch of mud against the wall and see if any of it sticks technique. Gotta love the oldies but goodies.

 

[Myriad]

Why did you say the firefighter in the photo has a confused head?

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[SDC]

That is why it is so sad. Terral is fully aware that upon close examination most, if not all, of what he posted can be shown to be crap, yet he posts it anyway.

The old famous throw a bunch of mud against the wall and see if any of it sticks technique. Gotta love the oldies but goodies.

Are you sure he knows it's all wrong? I get the feeling of a true believer.

 

[DGM]

Hi DGM:




Posting my WTC-7 thesis paper on other Boards does NOT give these JREF writers and readers the opportunity to offer their advocating or opposing arguments on THIS JREF Board and on THIS Conspiracy Forum. What’s the matter? Is there such a thing as TOO MUCH 911Truth for DGM? :0) No sir. SPAM is reposting my work in other JREF rooms, or even pasting my WTC-7 OP Presentation on other JREF Conspiracy threads; which anyone can verify is NOT happening on this Board. Many of you simply have no WTC-7 thesis paper from which to draft your rebuttals and counterproposals to my Opening Post presentation. Your idea of ‘debunking’ (heh) is pasting three pathetic sentences to my threads, which only works to prove you have no case at all.

GL,

Terral

Your right about one thing. I've had about enough 9/11 truth. It would be a different story if it was connected with reality.

Why do you ignore real people?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Your diesel tank lingo is more meaningless drivel, because hydrocarbon fires do not possess sufficient energy to even begin melting steel columns and beams from the WTC-7 steel framed network.

GL,

Terral

your blanket statement that "hydrocarbons" cant burn that hot is wrong for several reasons

1: hydrocarbons can and do burn hot enough to melt steel, most cutting torches use a hydrocarbon fuel

2: there is no set maximum temperature at which something can burn, depending on how fast the heat can dissipate and how hot the materials are at the start of the reaction it can easily get hot enough to melt steel

3: it doesnt matter anyway, steel melting is a strawman invented by the truth movement

 

[twinstead]

Fire wasn't hot enough to melt steel. Now there's a blast from the past.

 

[BenBurch]

Oh. My. Dog. Not this tired, insane crap again!?

Did you know that Silverstein LOST MONEY when the WTC-7 fell down? A lot of money. The insurance he had did not even begin to cover it. Doesn't sound like something a "Greedy Joooo" would want, eh, Terral? Your anti-Semitism is pathetic and disgusting.

 

[SDC]

Oh. My. Dog. Not this tired, insane crap again!?

Did you know that Silverstein LOST MONEY when the WTC-7 fell down? A lot of money. The insurance he had did not even begin to cover it. Doesn't sound like something a "Greedy Joooo" would want, eh, Terral? Your anti-Semitism is pathetic and disgusting.

Well, I had a revelation a few years ago -- in all places, in the People's Republic of Ann Arbor, at a cookout for folk dancers -- a bunch of granola eating sandal wearing crunchy lefties if ever there was one.

At which a prominent member of the Ann Arbor folk dance community (English country dancing, American contras and squares) referred to a building fire as "Jew insurance." I could've decked him, but I couldn't get good enough footing, what with the sandals, and the granola underfoot.

This stuff is deeply rooted in the culture. With sickos, it comes to the surface.

 

[Blender Head]

your blanket statement that "hydrocarbons" cant burn that hot is wrong for several reasons

1: hydrocarbons can and do burn hot enough to melt steel, most cutting torches use a hydrocarbon fuel

2: there is no set maximum temperature at which something can burn, depending on how fast the heat can dissipate and how hot the materials are at the start of the reaction it can easily get hot enough to melt steel

3: it doesnt matter anyway, steel melting is a strawman invented by the truth movement

This non-Truther website states the steel melted:

http://www.caddigest.com/subjects/wtc/select/clifton/p1.htm

 

[DGM]

Terral:
Are you ready to call those iron workers in your pictures liars or fools? If so let me know and I'll introduce you to them.

 

[pomeroo]

Hi DGM:




Posting my WTC-7 thesis paper on other Boards does NOT give these JREF writers and readers the opportunity to offer their advocating or opposing arguments on THIS JREF Board and on THIS Conspiracy Forum. What’s the matter? Is there such a thing as TOO MUCH 911Truth for DGM? :0) No sir. SPAM is reposting my work in other JREF rooms, or even pasting my WTC-7 OP Presentation on other JREF Conspiracy threads; which anyone can verify is NOT happening on this Board. Many of you simply have no WTC-7 thesis paper from which to draft your rebuttals and counterproposals to my Opening Post presentation. Your idea of ‘debunking’ (heh) is pasting three pathetic sentences to my threads, which only works to prove you have no case at all.

GL,

Terral

You are one of the last conspiracy liars to cling to the thoroughly--and I mean thoroughly--debunked falsehood about the meaning of the phrase "pull it." There isn't a demolition company anywhere that recognizes this fantasist fabrication as industry slang for "blow up the building." Don't you get tired of being corrected?

Why can't your evil movement produce someone who can argue the fantasist case against Mark and Arthur Scheuerman on 'Hardfire'?

 

[Terral]

Thermite Shaped-Charges Are 2500-Degree Cutter-Charges

Hi Dave:

Dave >> Oh yeah, Terral, one other thing. What exactly is a "Thermite Shaped Charge"?

Thermite Shaped Charges (picture) are an illegal brand of ‘cutter charges’ utilized to sever steel connections, by introducing a carefully prepared amount of “iron oxide and aluminum powder” with the end products being “aluminum oxide and molten iron.” The inside-job bad guys used sulfur in conjunction with Thermite to accelerate the destructive effect on the steel columns, girders and beams, which transformed regular Thermite into “Thermate.” Thermate is then combined with a malleable medium for placement all over the steel-framed network using 45-degree and 90-degree ‘shaped-charges’ to move the steel supports in any of the four directions (like this). The 45-degree charges ‘walk’ column lines in any direction (like this), while the 90-degree charges simply ‘cut’ the connection square (“Severed Column End”). These 45-degree cuts cannot possibly be part of any natural building fire collapse, as you can see these are CUTS and not the result of ‘melting’ anything. Even the 90-degree cuts MUST be part of the demolition process, as they have nothing to do with any melting of any structural steel components. The only way to transform an overbuilt WTC-7 47 story skyscraper into this little pile in just a few hours is by Controlled Demolition. Period!

GL,

Terral

 

[Good Lt]

Hi Dave:
Thermite Shaped Charges (picture) are an illegal brand of ‘cutter charges’ utilized to sever steel connections, by introducing a carefully prepared amount of “iron oxide and aluminum powder” with the end products being “aluminum oxide and molten iron.” The inside-job bad guys used sulfur in conjunction with Thermite to accelerate the destructive effect on the steel columns, girders and beams, which transformed regular Thermite into “Thermate.” Thermate is then combined with a malleable medium for placement all over the steel-framed network using 45-degree and 90-degree ‘shaped-charges’ to move the steel supports in any of the four directions (like this). The 45-degree charges ‘walk’ column lines in any direction (like this), while the 90-degree charges simply ‘cut’ the connection square (“Severed Column End”). These 45-degree cuts cannot possibly be part of any natural building fire collapse, as you can see these are CUTS and not the result of ‘melting’ anything. Even the 90-degree cuts MUST be part of the demolition process, as they have nothing to do with any melting of any structural steel components. The only way to transform an overbuilt WTC-7 47 story skyscraper into this little pile in just a few hours is by Controlled Demolition. Period!

GL,

Terral

So did you look up what an "oxyacetylene torch" does, and the definition of the word "slag" in the context of cutting metal with said torches yet?

Period!

LOL

This expression is usually reserved for instances in which one says something profound or definitive.

You've done no such thing.

 

[bje]

Posting my WTC-7 thesis paper..... Many of you simply have no WTC-7 thesis paper...

GL,

Terral

Unfortunately, Terral, you must support your "thesis" when its contents and claims are challenged. As we see, you never have and evade every challenge to your claims and thesis.

Like your silly Pentagon claims which we nailed you on.

We don't have to debunk your "thesis". You have to support it. And you can't.

You flunk.