Wroclaw welcomes CODOH members

[VonKleist]

I dunno, something like "where was the weaving mill and aircraft recycling plant located"

It was just a question.

So that was the thread title, more or less? And the person's post was the same as the title, and was the only post?

 

[little grey rabbit]

garethdb, in all honesty I don't remember.

This innocent member of the public put a very innocous question in the title (remember this is a discussion forum that moves slower arthritic centipede) and then said someone had made a claim about the Weaving Mill, that it was a shocking claim and then gave the address of a post on my blog. Could they please supply the correct information so that this lie could be nailed.

Alright, Gareth, you might have your suspicions you nasty-minded man. But I think the innocent member of the public phrased it in such away as any innocent member of the public would, who wanted to get the information to refute something would do. Namely, here is a claim (not specified exactly), I think it is a lie, please give me the correct information.

 

[VonKleist]

garethdb, in all honesty I don't remember.

This innocent member of the public put a very innocous question in the title (remember this is a discussion forum that moves slower arthritic centipede) and then said someone had made a claim about the Weaving Mill, that it was a shocking claim and then gave the address of a post on my blog. Could they please supply the correct information so that this lie could be nailed.

Alright, Gareth, you might have your suspicions you nasty-minded man. But I think the innocent member of the public phrased it in such away as any innocent member of the public would, who wanted to get the information to refute something would do. Namely, here is a claim (not specified exactly), I think it is a lie, please give me the correct information.

Well, this all seems woolier than an adult merino let alone a shorn lamb. An innocuous question that neither you nor the innocent member of the public (IMOTP) can remember, about a claim made by a person who you nor the IMOTP can remember. And you only 'think' the IMOTP phrased the question in such a way as any IMOTP would (though, being an IMOTP themselves, how could they do otherwise).

If I were you, I would email the museum directly rather than bothering with the half-remembered reported accounts of IMOTPs. Or just ask directly whatever question you have here once this exchange has been shifted to AAH.

 

[little grey rabbit]

Well, this all seems woolier than an adult merino let alone a shorn lamb. An innocuous question that neither you nor the innocent member of the public (IMOTP) can remember, about a claim made by a person who you nor the IMOTP can remember. And you only 'think' the IMOTP phrased the question in such a way as any IMOTP would (though, being an IMOTP themselves, how could they do otherwise).

If I were you, I would email the museum directly rather than bothering with the half-remembered reported accounts of IMOTPs. Or just ask directly whatever question you have here once this exchange has been shifted to AAH.

Nah, there is no point in emailing museums, they don't answer. Believe me, I am a past master at disguising my true motivations.....but somehow they can always see through.

 

[JimBenArm]

Nah, there is no point in emailing museums, they don't answer. Believe me, I am a past master at disguising my true motivations.....but somehow they can always see through.

Possibly because you're not half as clever as you think you are?

Nah, that couldn't be it...

 

[VonKleist]

Believe me,

Nah, not a chance.

I am a past master at disguising my true motivations.....but somehow they can always see through.

The obvious conclusion to be drawn then, is that you have an unjustifiably high opinion of your own abilities.

 

[little grey rabbit]

Possibly because you're not half as clever as you think you are?

Nah, that couldn't be it...

Some times they do answer, but then they delicately skip round the point of the question. I guess there are questions that no nice person asks - or rather the answer is incriminating - and no matter what cover story you invent, they can't answer the question because they know its bollocks.

In fairness, some of them probably get a lot of mail - but that doesnt excuse them avoiding questions when they do take time to answer.

 

[JimBenArm]

Some times they do answer, but then they delicately skip round the point of the question. I guess there are questions that no nice person asks - or rather the answer is incriminating - and no matter what cover story you invent, they can't answer the question because they know its bollocks.

In fairness, some of them probably get a lot of mail - but that doesnt excuse them avoiding questions when they do take time to answer.

Or you're simply not half as clever as you think you are.

 

[Wroclaw]

Jeez, what an a-hole this Hannover is. I'm attaching a screen shot.

Just for the record:

(1) Simone Veil was 17 when she was deported to Auschwitz —*old enough to be recruited for work by anyone's estimate.

(2) One need only view Schindler's List to see a depiction of Jews transited through Auschwitz.

(3) That "Tell the truth" quote? It's from David Mamet's Glengarry Glen Ross. Mamet is Jewish.

(4) This idiot is obsessed with the "standard storyline." Who the hell cares?

(5) This guy says there was only one forensic report admitted in court. Who the hell does he think he's talking to?

(6) He points to no outbound train records but fails to see that this is precisely the problem with his argument that Jews were sent from Poland elsewhere.

This is who Bradley Smith puts in charge of the forum?

 

[Mycroft]

Ahhh, but the person who asked wasn't a Holocaust Denier, just an innocent member of the public who asked where the two operations were in the camp - in a discussion forum specially set up to ask questions.

But Mycroft, why don't you go and ask them - after all you are not a denier and surely you are at least a little bit interested?

Nope.

There was a time when I spent a lot of time studying WWII history and the Holocaust in specific while debating a lot of holocaust deniers. In the end I learned two things; 1) Holocaust deniers are full of crap, but pointing out exactly where and how they're full of crap doesn't change their minds. Ever. 2) The Holocaust is very depressing, and life should be spent learning about better things.

So...I take it you're not going to bring up problem #2 for fear it will be shot down as fast and easy as #1? Pity, I thought you would bring up leprechauns.

 

[little grey rabbit]

Nope.

There was a time when I spent a lot of time studying WWII history and the Holocaust in specific while debating a lot of holocaust deniers. In the end I learned two things; 1) Holocaust deniers are full of crap, but pointing out exactly where and how they're full of crap doesn't change their minds. Ever. 2) The Holocaust is very depressing, and life should be spent learning about better things.

So...I take it you're not going to bring up problem #2 for fear it will be shot down as fast and easy as #1? Pity, I thought you would bring up leprechauns.

You have lost me on your #1 and #2.

I am very confident that there is no solid base of the two giant chimneys as depicted in blueprints. I am very confident that detailed liberation footage of clearing the site shows absolutely no structure consistent with the remains of such structures. I am very confident that engineering a single oven with two giant chimneys is stupid. I am very confident that the photos show clear signs of manipulation.
I concede that while it is possible that a remodelling took place during construction, it is rather unlikely. For one thing that way the bricks are being placed during the covering up of one of the large windows looks gravity defying.

Weberei is a good solution, but if it isn't true it doesn't matter. Because it can be definitively shown that Krematoria along the lines of the alleged blueprints are not true.

 

[uke2se]

Because it can be definitively shown that Krematoria along the lines of the alleged blueprints are not true.

Nobody ever has, which leads me to think that nobody can. I mean, if you Nazi-boys could do it you would have. As it stands, all you have is lies, misinterpretations and misunderstandings, just like any other woo-peddler.

 

[little grey rabbit]

Nobody ever has, which leads me to think that nobody can. I mean, if you Nazi-boys could do it you would have. As it stands, all you have is lies, misinterpretations and misunderstandings, just like any other woo-peddler.

Waah, waah, he's a troll, don't click on his blog, don't read and by clairvoyance I know its all lies.

Have you read the post or not, ukese? At least Mycroft had the courtesy to do so.

 

[uke2se]

Waah, waah, he's a troll, don't click on his blog, don't read and by clairvoyance I know its all lies.

If your blog contains what you post here, it's all lies, misinterpretations and misunderstandings. If your blog doesn't contain what you post here, you're lying here instead. Either way, you are a liar, and nothing you write should be trusted.

Have you read the post or not, ukese? At least Mycroft had the courtesy to do so.

I told you, I don't read Nazi websites, and I don't owe you any courtesy or respect.

 

[Mycroft]

I am very confident that engineering a single oven with two giant chimneys is stupid.

If it's just one oven how come you labeled it "Krema IV and V"? Doesn't that imply at least two ovens or two groups of ovens?

I've often wondered if holocaust denial is a mental illness related to OCD.

 

[little grey rabbit]

If it's just one oven how come you labeled it "Krema IV and V"? Doesn't that imply at least two ovens or two groups of ovens?

I've often wondered if holocaust denial is a mental illness related to OCD.

Oh, I call them "Krema" IV and "Krema" V

2 buildings, 2 8-muffle ovens, 4 chimneys.

Go figure.

Mental illness or not, its a lot of fun.

 

[tsig]

Nah, there is no point in emailing museums, they don't answer. Believe me, I am a past master at disguising my true motivations.....but somehow they can always see through.

Apparently well past it if they always see thru you.

 

[dudalb]

Jeez, what an a-hole this Hannover is. I'm attaching a screen shot.

Just for the record:

(1) Simone Veil was 17 when she was deported to Auschwitz —*old enough to be recruited for work by anyone's estimate.

(2) One need only view Schindler's List to see a depiction of Jews transited through Auschwitz.

(3) That "Tell the truth" quote? It's from David Mamet's Glengarry Glen Ross. Mamet is Jewish.

(4) This idiot is obsessed with the "standard storyline." Who the hell cares?

(5) This guy says there was only one forensic report admitted in court. Who the hell does he think he's talking to?

(6) He points to no outbound train records but fails to see that this is precisely the problem with his argument that Jews were sent from Poland elsewhere.

This is who Bradley Smith puts in charge of the forum?

I am trying to imagine a Holocaust Denier version of Alec Baldwin's Famour Rant in "Glen Gerry GlenRoss". Baldwin has done a lot of crap since then, but he will always have that great moment, one of my favorites monolgues in film.

 

[Wroclaw]

Here's a good example of how an underinformed but self-confident Holocaust denier reacts when he gets nervous that his lies are being unearthed:

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6416

I'll respond only to Hargis's material. He writes:

Ridiculous. A German soldier being allowed to photograph a supposedly top secret action**.

No, fool: A military photographer. Whose job it is to, you know, take pictures.

And lest it be argued that there is no such thing:

http://www.defense.gov/home/features/military_photographers/

Anyone can add captions to a photo in an attempt to create 'evidence', this would not hold up in any legitimate court of law.

Except for two points: (1) This isn't a court of law; and (2) It isn't just the pictures that constitute the evidence.

More than likely remains of communist atrocities which are still being found today in easily verified and viewable site excavations.

That's a nice try, but, unlike Katyn, the Nazis didn't bother to try to pin this one on the Soviets, so that charge kind of falls apart.

There is not a single verifiable mass grave as alleged which can be shown to be commensurate with the mythological 'holocaust' storyline. Not one.

And when I began providing evidence at CODOH, my posts were deleted. That's what a coward does.

The next post continues:

This particular photo was taken during the exact time* of the alleged exhumations & cremations of supposedly, tens of thousands (cremation furnaces alleged to have been made from Jewish tombstones from nearby cemetery, cemetery shown in photo).

See below on this particular point.

The photo is available from the U.S. National Archives and is listed as: GX 3938 SG, exposure 105.

I would bet $1,000 in cash that Hargis never checked.

*The photo was taken September 26, 1943, which according to the mythology is during the exact time of the alleged exhumations and mass outdoor cremations.

Actually, the best reports we have about the exhumations and cremations at Babi Yar are that they took place over six weeks in August and September 1943. That means, for one thing, that it's a lie to say that the "mythology" dictates an exact time.

Furthermore, if we take the loosest possible interpretation of the time frame given, there is only a roughly 5 in 60 chance that cremations were still going on as of September 26.

Are the "Holocaust" cultists now saying that the dates they themselves cite for this alleged event are now fictitious?

No, because the exact dates were never given.

The remains of the Czar's family were found with no trouble, but Jewish Supremacists can't produce physical evidence for the tens of thousands (the numbers depends on which lie you read) at Babi Yar, or anywhere else that they claim Jews were dumped into pits.

Repeating a lie doesn't make it true, Jonnie.

Finally, Sergey Romanov already demonstrated that Ball's entire argument is based on lies. See:

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/08/thats-why-it-is-denial-not-revisionism.html

Please e-mail him response: jhargis@library.ucla.edu

 

[Saggy]

Here's a good example of how an underinformed but self-confident Holocaust denier reacts when he gets nervous that his lies are being unearthed:

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6416

I'll respond only to Hargis's material. He writes:



No, fool: A military photographer. Whose job it is to, you know, take pictures.

And lest it be argued that there is no such thing:

http://www.defense.gov/home/features/military_photographers/



Except for two points: (1) This isn't a court of law; and (2) It isn't just the pictures that constitute the evidence.



That's a nice try, but, unlike Katyn, the Nazis didn't bother to try to pin this one on the Soviets, so that charge kind of falls apart.



And when I began providing evidence at CODOH, my posts were deleted. That's what a coward does.

The next post continues:



See below on this particular point.



I would bet $1,000 in cash that Hargis never checked.



Actually, the best reports we have about the exhumations and cremations at Babi Yar are that they took place over six weeks in August and September 1943. That means, for one thing, that it's a lie to say that the "mythology" dictates an exact time.

Furthermore, if we take the loosest possible interpretation of the time frame given, there is only a roughly 5 in 60 chance that cremations were still going on as of September 26.



No, because the exact dates were never given.



Repeating a lie doesn't make it true, Jonnie.

Finally, Sergey Romanov already demonstrated that Ball's entire argument is based on lies. See:

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/08/thats-why-it-is-denial-not-revisionism.html

Please e-mail him response: jhargis@library.ucla.edu

You were bounced from CODOH because you made too many garbage posts there, just as you do here.

Why would anyone bother to read much less respond to such an idiotic post as the above?