Would Bernie Sanders have won?

[The Shrike]

Even better, 'cause it includes a key!

Green (like map above) = county that went to Sanders. In the heartland and swing states, the Democrats did NOT want Hillary Clinton. It's as plain as day.

MN, WI, PA, and MI were clearly loaded with Bernie supporters. These are the people who did not come out for Clinton and that's why there's a lunatic man-baby in the White House. Bernie with another 4 months to campaign would've done much better with "the black vote" than the primary map suggests for the South.

 

[angrysoba]

I think you should consider the fact that this view stems from, in (large? maybe) part, the fact that you are part of the demographic that Sanders activated and spoke to. So what is probably true about your cohort - that Clinton voters would readily switch to Sanders were he the nominee - may not hold true outside of your cohort.

Clinton won the nom in no small part by appealing to non-millennial minorities and women. It may be true that they would have switched to Sanders, but you can't just take it as a given. As such I see a lot of taking Bernie's viability with the core Clinton crowd on faith; not a lot of evidence or support to back up that assertion. I'm not saying it's impossible, just that AFAIC its an utterly baseless statement right now - it's not even wrong.

No, I am most certainly not his demographic. I am nearly forty and I am not even American. I have explained already that this is not an expression of my wishful thinking. I have already said that I would have expected Clinton to have had the best chance of winning prior to the election. I am merely asking this in hindsight with the assumption, that much is correct, that those who voted for Clinton would indeed have voted for Sanders if Trump was the only alternative. Would these minorities have switched their votes in large part to Trump? I think that is a less likely outcome than that they would have voted for Sanders. So in a sense I am making the argument that a Sanders vote would be essentially the same as a Clinton vote plus some others such as in the rust belt.

In simple terms a Sanders vote is Clinton+