Woo of a feather flocks together

[casebro]

Audiometry? What IS that?

It's the most legitimate practitioner there. It's the measurement of hearing, a hearing aid salesman. Quite a profitable racket too, but does help people hear better.

 

[JihadJane]

Oh noes, it's not woo!

 

[Nerd]

Why is Chinese herbology/medicine considered "woo"?
Many of my buddies are researching the beneficial effects of certain plant extracts and they're getting a good amount of results.

 

[Orphia Nay]

It's the most legitimate practitioner there. It's the measurement of hearing, a hearing aid salesman. Quite a profitable racket too, but does help people hear better.

Ah, thanks for that. Yes, you're right.

http://getaccess.wa.gov.au/careers/profiles/data/OCC307.asp

Oh noes, it's not woo!

I guess that makes Vibrational Kinesiology legit!

 

[This is The End]

What is a 'HYNOTHERAPIST'? The last one listed on the sign.

We can only assume they forgot the P in HyPnotherapist.

 

[This is The End]

Why is Chinese herbology/medicine considered "woo"?
Many of my buddies are researching the beneficial effects of certain plant extracts and they're getting a good amount of results.

Is that a veiled recreational drug reference?

 

[casebro]

Why is Chinese herbology/medicine considered "woo"?
Many of my buddies are researching the beneficial effects of certain plant extracts and they're getting a good amount of results.

How about because so few of the herbs have been through any kind of rigorous scientific testing? Like DBPC, Double Blind, Placebo Controlled, where neither the doctor nor the patient knows whether they are getting the real herb or a placebo substitute. Then, the two groups outcomes are compared, the 'real herb' and the placebo. If the herb does hno better than the placebo, using it is 'woo'.

Let us know what your buddies learn.

 

[Zep]

Why is Chinese herbology/medicine considered "woo"?
Many of my buddies are researching the beneficial effects of certain plant extracts and they're getting a good amount of results.

Undoubtedly there are plenty of interesting compounds available from many different vegetable products that MAY have some medical benefit. And indeed many have been found in the most unlikely places (Norwegian tundra swamps, no less!). However there are also many known ones that are quite harmful instead, if not deadly. But the vast majority of them are simply timber, harmless grasses, or tasty salad ingredients.

The problems with the way most "herbal" stuff gets pushed are that the compounds that may do something are not isolated to determine which ones are doing the work and which are just colouring, they are not measured for dosage strength, and they are not properly trialled for efficacy or safety. You may be unwittingly taking your life in your hands with them.

Of course, when they do find some herbal compound that clearly does work, is tested properly and is accurately dosed, it's called...medicine!

 

[Nerd]

Is that a veiled recreational drug reference?

Maybe...

How about because so few of the herbs have been through any kind of rigorous scientific testing? Like DBPC, Double Blind, Placebo Controlled, where neither the doctor nor the patient knows whether they are getting the real herb or a placebo substitute. Then, the two groups outcomes are compared, the 'real herb' and the placebo. If the herb does hno better than the placebo, using it is 'woo'.

Let us know what your buddies learn.

The ongoing research is in vitro not in vivo, they're measuring the effects of certain plant extracts in cells. Some herbs were shown to be neuroprotective against AD by releasing endogenous mo. What I'm wondering is why some people automatically assume all of herbology as "woo".

However there are also many known ones that are quite harmful instead, if not deadly. But the vast majority of them are simply timber, harmless grasses, or tasty salad ingredients.
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Doesn't really have to do with Chinese herbology, but your post reminded me of this: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2878759/?tool=pubmed

 

[eir_de_scania]

That's the point. Yes, a chiropractor can give you a massage, and as long as you keep them away from your neck, probably won't cause you serious harm in the process. A naturopath can make you a nice cup of tea, and probably won't poison you. A homeopath can... Well, no, actually; homeopaths can't do anything at all.

The entire field is woo, and the ability to provide remedial massages is just an accident.

Well, a homeopath can give you a nice glass of water, sometimes you really need that.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Is chiro really that bad? My mate did his back yesterday and I took him to the ER, their resident chiro reduced his pain by probably 90% in minutes without using drugs, just by manipulating the muscles in his back. Surely a major hospital wouldn't have a chiropractor in their ER if it was total woo, would it?

I bet his pain came back 1/2 hour later? He needs to do some exercises (that a PT would direct him to do) to keep the pain away permanently I bet. What kind of hospital has a resident chiro?

 

[Orphia Nay]

I bet his pain came back 1/2 hour later? He needs to do some exercises (that a PT would direct him to do) to keep the pain away permanently I bet. What kind of hospital has a resident chiro?

Bit pattern admitted he'd made a mistake on that:

On further reflection, I think it was a physiotherapist and not a chiropractor that my mate saw, which makes more sense that an E.R would have one on their staff.

Thanks for the links though, some interesting reading.