Alferd_Packer
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has run an abysmal campaign with poor coordination, execution and management.
Which doesn't say much about his ability to run the country, now does it.
has run an abysmal campaign with poor coordination, execution and management.
Which doesn't say much about his ability to run the country, now does it.
But does the average voter know everything about this story?
For example, does the average voter know that while Obama is now claiming he didn't know about Wright's extremism (presumably because he didn't go to church all that often), back in 2004 after he won his Senate seat, Obama proudly told a Chicago-Sun Times reporter that he attended the 11 o'clock service at Trinity church EVERY WEEK? And presumably his wife and children did, too. Given that, how could he (and they) possibly have escaped knowledge of Wright's views or not been influence by them?
Does the average voter know that ABC News reviewed more than a dozen sermons THAT ARE ON SALE by the church and found instance after instance of Wright expousing his radical agenda. Did Obama and his family never buy one of these tapes? Fox News looked at several hours of sermons and found the same thing. Wright GDing America. Calling it the "US of KKK". Castigating the US for bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki then saying "we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans and now we are indignant? Because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own front yard. America's chickens are coming home to roost." Stating that "the government lied about Pearl Harbor." Saying "We've got a paranoid group of patriot's in power." Proclaiming "black men turning on black men, that's fighting the wrong enemy. You both are the primary targets in an oppressive society that sees both of you as a dangerous threat". Telling his flock that "what we are doing is the same thing al-Qaeda is doing under a different color of flag". And on and on and on.
This is not a small subset of carefully selected sermons. It's the results from a small SAMPLING of Wright's sermons. Sort of like a poll based on a random sampling of voters. This sampling suggests Wright spent a lot of time pushing his extreme beliefs. One wonders what outrageous things Wright said in the tapes the church didn't want to sell to the public. Afterall, this is a church that gave a "lifetime achievement award" to Louis Farrakhan for his "commitment to truth, education and leadership". What does Farrakhan consider the "truth"? He called Judaism a "gutter religion". "Hitler was a very great man." "White people are potential humans, they haven't evolved yet." Oh yes, this church was a big believer in *truth*. Oprah Winfrey left the church in the mid-90's saying Wright's sermons were "incendiary". Wonder what she meant by that? How could Obama and his family have missed what was so obvious to Oprah? Are they clueless, as they seem to want us to believe they are on so many fronts (for example, we are also asked to believe they didn't know anything about Ayers)?
Doe the average voter know that the Trumpet, Wright's national "lifestyle magazine for the socially conscious", is filled with the same extremism? http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/082ktdyi.asp In it, America is called the "Western Diaspora". There were articles in it demanding impeachment of Bush and Cheney. Statements like this: "Do you see God as a God who approves of Americans taking other people's countries? Taking other people's women? Raping teenage girls and calling it love (as in Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemmings)?" And this: "Some analysts would go so far as to even call what [the United States, the G-8, and multinational corporations] are doing [in Africa] genocide!" And this: "White supremacy is the bed rock of the philosophical, ideological and theological foundations of this country." And this: "White supremacy undergirds the thought, the ideology, the theol-ogy, the sociology, the legal structure, the educational system, the healthcare system, and the entire reality of the United States of America and South Africa!" Did Obama never pick up a copy of the magazine? That would be odd, given that Obama was on the cover at least once himself (an edition that strangely enough neither Obama or the publisher will provide now).
How could Obama and his wife have been unaware of this after spending 20 years in the church, with Obama attending service by his own account EVERY WEEK? They couldn't possibly be unaware. So Obama must be LYING. That is only logical conclusion. And that is the real story here. We once again catch Obama LYING about past relationships. And if he'll lie to get into public office, how many of you think he will stop lying once he is in office? Did Clinton make democrats so comfortable with liars that they don't care any more? Prove the answer is not yes.
It might actually help Obama as it reminds people he is a christian instead of a Muslin.
I'm not afraid of discussing AIP and Palin's alleged association with it ... unlike you with Wright and Ayers.