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Oh, I'm exactly the same. I had to concede that the machine I tested it on was indeed, as I specified in the registry, a POS.
 
Darat said:
For some reason I don't parse that as "point of sale" but as "piece of ****"!
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You and basically every single restaurant employee in the world. (Front of the house only of course, those kitchen people are all on drugs and do not ponder things such as acronym jokes.)
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
So, unlike Windows 9 where they hide the fact that you can install it without a Microsoft account, with Windows 10 you will have to have a Microsoft account? Pass.
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According the previews, you can install and use without an MS account, though you won't get some functionality, most likely the new cloud/online based stuff.
You still need a local user account of some sort but you've always had to have at least since WIn 7.
Chances are they won't make that too clear at first run so they get lots of new users to er... exploit for paid for services.

Basically this is surely part of the strategy. Give the OS away then get income from other online services such as Office cloud or whatever it's called these days.
 
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My computer, Windows 8, installed updates automatically. Now the hard drive is wiped clean. What do I do.
 
Rrose Selavy said:
Basically this is surely part of the strategy. Give the OS away then get income from other online services such as Office cloud or whatever it's called these days.
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Microsoft gets its income from licensing, primarily. End users get Windows 10 free, but computer manufacturers will have to buy the license.

They do get money from selling both online and offline Office, but again, most of the money even in that direction comes from businesses buying multiple licenses to cover all their computers. For end users, there are actually completely free "lite" versions of the main Office applications online. You have to have a Microsoft account to use them; but they are refreshingly ad-banner-and-popup-free.

Microsoft despite its reputation is quite end-user-friendly. They've even recently made Visual Studio completely free for individuals to download and use.
 
The remaining domestic XP users don't seem to be getting a free upgrade to 10. Perhaps MS have calculated they don't need them but it surely would shift quite a few users or surmised many XP PCs can't reliably run 10 and they don't want that hassle.
 
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Trebuchet said:
We've got a couple of old XP machines which I doubt would even run Win7, let alone 10.
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Indeed. I still have an old (second hand ebay bought ) netbook that runs XP back that came out when the only alternative was Win 7 Starter for many netbooks. Windows own Compatibility tests for WIn 7 were not promising with lots of unknowns etc and if I recall processor or motherboard based reasons why it probably wouldn't or couldn't run. But I'd rather hoped that more recent versions of Windows (apart from improved mobile power management) would be leaner and more compatible to many devices.
 
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tyr_13 said:
I think it might be because of some of the business software that hasn't been updated in forever which checks for 'windows 9x' for Windows 95 or 98, but would mess up with a 'Windows 9'.

Of course they could have just named it differently inside code than they marketed it.
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Technically speaking windows 8.1 is "Windows 9". At least according one of my friends who's more fluent in computers. There was a pattern he showed me - that I don't recall clearly enough to explain - where it made sense how the windows versions were more or less sequential in their version numbers... in this case the "8.1" being "8+1 =9" scheme
 
Grizzly Bear said:
Technically speaking windows 8.1 is "Windows 9". At least according one of my friends who's more fluent in computers. There was a pattern he showed me - that I don't recall clearly enough to explain - where it made sense how the windows versions were more or less sequential in their version numbers... in this case the "8.1" being "8+1 =9" scheme
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Sounds like numerology to me. I honestly can't come up with a pattern that can be applied to all releases of Microsoft Windows that makes any sense whatsoever. Windows 8.1 is just Windows 8.1.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
Sounds like numerology to me. I honestly can't come up with a pattern that can be applied to all releases of Microsoft Windows that makes any sense whatsoever. Windows 8.1 is just Windows 8.1.
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It was some similar schematic when he showed me for windows vista and 7. If you viewed the properties for the OS, vista was 6.0, and 7 was "6.1".

Whatever, just thought it was amusing more than anything ;)
 
Grizzly Bear said:
It was some similar schematic when he showed me for windows vista and 7. If you viewed the properties for the OS, vista was 6.0, and 7 was "6.1".

Whatever, just thought it was amusing more than anything ;)
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Just for fun, I opened a command prompt widow on this Win 7 machine and typed "ver".
[Version 6.1.7601] is the result.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
Sounds like numerology to me. I honestly can't come up with a pattern that can be applied to all releases of Microsoft Windows that makes any sense whatsoever. Windows 8.1 is just Windows 8.1.
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Well, if you open the table just above that, "Windows timeline: Table", you see the internal version numbers. Windows 8.1 is NT 6.3.9600. I think you're right about the numerology. :)

The name the product is marketed as may be completely different from the number used internally to refer to the release while it's under development.
 
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