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Windows 10 - why

Wowbagger said:
The problem wasn't innovation. The problem was twofold:
1. Neglecting legacy options, for users to fall back on, while experimenting with their innovations.
2. Neglecting the lessons learned from past UI design failures. (Such as moving away from basic icon-label pairing, etc.)

The Modern UI was rushed out the door before being properly sanity checked. It will live on in an improved form.

But, the Windows 8 failure didn't have to happen. A little more attention to hard-won details from the past would have made it great, right out of the gate! It wasn't innovation, it was genuine stupidity.

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Which of the two is that?
 
Ah, you're referring to the Tapatalk thing... That was neglecting to use a PC to make the post, and using my phone, instead. It wasn't one of the two on the list. It was something else. And, here it is again:

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Wowbagger said:
Ah, you're referring to the Tapatalk thing... That was neglecting to use a PC to make the post, and using my phone, instead. It wasn't one of the two on the list. It was something else. And, here it is again:

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I was thinking it might be both - innovation and stupidity. Not by you, but by whomever decided it was a good idea to add a device tag automatically.

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marplots said:
I was thinking it might be both - innovation and stupidity. Not by you, but by whomever decided it was a good idea to add a device tag automatically.
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I suppose it would have been nicer if they had a footer setting option upfront when you run the app for the first time. But, it could have been worse.

(Sent from my Galaxy S5, using that lousy Tapatalk app thingy, or whatever it is.)
 
dasmiller said:
So the major home versions have been:

Windows 3.1
Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows ME
Windows XP
Windows Vista
Windows 7
Windows 8

. . . and Windows 10 is where people spot an inconsistency in the naming?
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If memory serves, I first got on board with Windows 3.1A*, in the early-to-mid 90s.
 
RSLancastr said:
If memory serves, I first got on board with Windows 3.1A*, in the early-to-mid 90s.
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Ahhh...those were the days. I got onboard with DOS 6.2 and Windows 3.1 myself. That was in....1996 I think.

The real funny thing about it was I bought a full package (monitor, deskop, keyboard, mouse, printer) for a butload of money and then, when I got more knowledge about it, found out my DOS and Windows were actually pirated. From/by a chainstore. A big one. And on a namebrand computer.
 
The_Fire said:
Ahhh...those were the days. I got onboard with DOS 6.2 and Windows 3.1 myself. That was in....1996 I think.

The real funny thing about it was I bought a full package (monitor, deskop, keyboard, mouse, printer) for a butload of money and then, when I got more knowledge about it, found out my DOS and Windows were actually pirated. From/by a chainstore. A big one. And on a namebrand computer.
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I started in 1995 or so with an IBM XT with a 10meg hard drive, a CGA monitor, an Epson FX100 (132 character) dot-matrix printer, DOS 6.0 (or maybe 5.0), an AST Six Pack and Microsoft BASIC Compiler - all of this for around $2,000, purchased (by my employer, as a hiring incentive) from a Computerland franchise in West Covina, CA. It was another year or more before I started using Win 3.1A* and Microsoft Office at a client (Buena Vista Home Video - a Disney division).
 
Started 1986 with government issued PCs running DOS. I had no idea what I was being asked to do so I took the data sheet to the local book store and said "HELP!" He sold me a "Dummies" type book and I ran with from there.
 
RSLancastr said:
I started in 1995 or so with an IBM XT with a 10meg hard drive, a CGA monitor, an Epson FX100 (132 character) dot-matrix printer, <snip...>
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I suspect you're remembering the hardware/OS combinations incorrectly since the PC XT had been obsolete for almost a decade by 1995 (PC was released in 1981, XT 1983, AT 1984, PS/2 in 1987). By the end of the 1980s pretty much every business had migrated to 80386 processors for all production PCs (and usually not from IBM).
 
paulhutch said:
I suspect you're remembering the hardware/OS combinations incorrectly since the PC XT had been obsolete for almost a decade by 1995 (PC was released in 1981, XT 1983, AT 1984, PS/2 in 1987). By the end of the 1980s pretty much every business had migrated to 80386 processors for all production PCs (and usually not from IBM).
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Unless he started on a used machine, of course.
 
RSLancastr said:
I started in 1995 or so with an IBM XT with a 10meg hard drive, a CGA monitor, an Epson FX100 (132 character) dot-matrix printer, DOS 6.0 (or maybe 5.0), an AST Six Pack and Microsoft BASIC Compiler - all of this for around $2,000, purchased (by my employer, as a hiring incentive) from a Computerland franchise in West Covina, CA. It was another year or more before I started using Win 3.1A* and Microsoft Office at a client (Buena Vista Home Video - a Disney division).
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You must be talking about 1987-88 or so; I bought an 8088 (step below XT) around 1986 with the 10-meg hard drive, CGA, AST Six Pack Plus (IIRC the plus was a clock) plus dot matrix printer for about $2900 from Computerland. I doubt if Computerland was still around in 1992, let alone 1995. My 1992 PC was a 386-40 (not top of the line as the 486s were just coming out) with 120-meg hard drive, VGA graphics, for about $1200.
 
paulhutch said:
And his employer paid more than 10X the value of the machine.:)
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Employers sometimes do stuff like that. When I started at a large company in 1989, they were going out of their way to buy Compaq 80286's with 360K floppy drives and 20MB hard drives. That continued for a couple more years until IBM convinced them to switch to PS/2's. I don't think Windows made an appearance until well into the '90's.
 
Trebuchet said:
Employers sometimes do stuff like that. When I started at a large company in 1989, they were going out of their way to buy Compaq 80286's with 360K floppy drives and 20MB hard drives. That continued for a couple more years until IBM convinced them to switch to PS/2's. I don't think Windows made an appearance until well into the '90's.
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IIRC, Robert was doing computer programming so it seems unlikely his employer could entice him with obsolete hardware.
 
I remember wondering what the heck the big deal was with Windows 3.1 around 1992. Then somebody showed me that I could have both my word processor open and my spreadsheet program at the same time. I was accustomed to printing a spreadsheet just so I could look at both the numbers and the words at the same time.

Anybody migrated yet? That little icon is sitting at the bottom right of my desktop, but I can't run the risk that things are going to screw up.
 
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