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William Rodriguez

TraitorBasher said:
I dont think ive ever seen a truther mocking them. But my response is irrelevant to this. You cannot justify Rodriguez's treatment just because truthers might do the same thing.

I did read Hal's quote above. What does any of this have to do with Rodriguez? Has anyone disparaged Mr Bidlack?
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You are mocking him now by supporting 9/11 lies from the truth movement. You can not support any of the 9/11 truth movement points with facts and evidence, this is mocking all. It requires some expertise in research and rational thought to realize someone is supporting a fact less group of people making up stories about 9/11 without evidence to support them.
 
TraitorBasher said:
I dont think ive ever seen a truther mocking them. But my response is irrelevant to this. You cannot justify Rodriguez's treatment just because truthers might do the same thing.
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I'm sure some of the regulars here could come up with examples. I'm too busy here to play at other forums.


I did read Hal's quote above. What does any of this have to do with Rodriguez? Has anyone disparaged Mr Bidlack?
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I don't know that anyone has disparaged Hal here for his efforts on 9/11. All I'm saying is that I expect you to defend Hal with equal vigor should anyone ever do so. I expect to see you defend all of the heroes of 9/11, regardless of their stance on any conspiracy, with equal vigor on all forums.
 
Lisa Simpson said:
I'm sure some of the regulars here could come up with examples. I'm too busy here to play at other forums.




I don't know that anyone has disparaged Hal here for his efforts on 9/11. All I'm saying is that I expect you to defend Hal with equal vigor should anyone ever do so. I expect to see you defend all of the heroes of 9/11, regardless of their stance on any conspiracy, with equal vigor on all forums.
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And I will. Are you also expecting the members here to respect all heroes regardless of their stance on 9/11. The regulars here have quite a poor record. Apart from Rodriguez, they disparage Craig Bartmer, a cop who is now dying from the toxic air. They also have a penchant for calling victims families deniers if they dare to question the official story. Despicable.
 
TraitorBasher said:
And I will. Are you also expecting the members here to respect all heroes regardless of their stance on 9/11. The regulars here have quite a poor record. Apart from Rodriguez, they disparage Craig Bartmer, a cop who is now dying from the toxic air. They also have a penchant for calling victims families deniers if they dare to question the official story. Despicable.
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It's not despicable to call someone a denier, if in fact, they are a denier. One follows the other.

And yes, I expect everyone here to be respectful. However, questioning someone's idea of evidence is not disrespectful. That's what skeptics do. They ask questions.
 
TraitorBasher said:
And I will. Are you also expecting the members here to respect all heroes regardless of their stance on 9/11. The regulars here have quite a poor record. Apart from Rodriguez, they disparage Craig Bartmer, a cop who is now dying from the toxic air. They also have a penchant for calling victims families deniers if they dare to question the official story. Despicable.
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Examples, please. I'm sorry, but you have a record of misreading other's posts, and I want specific examples of this. Do they disparage the person, or what the person said?
 
TraitorBasher said:
And I will. Are you also expecting the members here to respect all heroes regardless of their stance on 9/11. The regulars here have quite a poor record. Apart from Rodriguez, they disparage Craig Bartmer, a cop who is now dying from the toxic air. They also have a penchant for calling victims families deniers if they dare to question the official story. Despicable.
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You are wrong. Nobody calls the victims families deniers for questioning the official story. Some of them are called deniers when they step into the land of woo and start claiming the government murdered the victims.
 
TraitorBasher said:
And I will. Are you also expecting the members here to respect all heroes regardless of their stance on 9/11. The regulars here have quite a poor record. Apart from Rodriguez, they disparage Craig Bartmer, a cop who is now dying from the toxic air. They also have a penchant for calling victims families deniers if they dare to question the official story. Despicable.
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I agree you are despicable not to use facts to support your wild ideas on 9/11. Bring some facts to the table. Why not stop posting until you find some facts to support conclusions of the 9/11 truth movement or your ideas on 9/11.
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I think it's very important to note the difference between hero and truther. He can be both lying and a lifesaver. Just as murderous gang bangers in Oakland Ca. became heroes helping pull people out of the rubble during the Oakland earthquake. The truthers tend to hold him up as if hero's can't lie or simply be wrong.
 
Lisa Simpson said:
It's not despicable to call someone a denier, if in fact, they are a denier. One follows the other.

And yes, I expect everyone here to be respectful. However, questioning someone's idea of evidence is not disrespectful. That's what skeptics do. They ask questions.
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Calling the Jersey Girls questions stupid and calling them nuts is despicable.

Calling Donna Marsh O'Conner a mentally unstable denier is despicable.

Calling Craig Bartmer an embittered fantasist is dispicable.

So it is ok for skeptics to ask questions but when mothers of dead victims ask questions they are deniers? Lovely.
 
TraitorBasher said:
Calling the Jersey Girls questions stupid and calling them nuts is despicable.

Calling Donna Marsh O'Conner a mentally unstable denier is despicable.

Calling Craig Bartmer an embittered fantasist is dispicable.

So it is ok for skeptics to ask questions but when mothers of dead victims ask questions they are deniers? Lovely.
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Did you read my post? You are confusing the issue. Questions do not make one a denier but stepping into woo does.
 
JimBenArm said:
Examples, please. I'm sorry, but you have a record of misreading other's posts, and I want specific examples of this. Do they disparage the person, or what the person said?
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There is a search function. Look for the thread of Craig Bartmer.
 
TraitorBasher said:
There is a search function. Look for the thread of Craig Bartmer.
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There is a library but you will not find facts on 9/11 to support the liars in the 9/11 truth movement. How do you feel about over 5 years and the truth movement has yet to produce a single facts. Like the moon landing deniers, big foot supporters, neonazi hate sites, jfk, and many more CT junk, there are no facts to support the lies. I have found most of the supporters of the 9/11 truth movement are just mislead or they are truly missing the required tools for rational thinking a well rounded education would of given them.

Face the facts. Not one 9/11 truth movement support has facts to support their ideas. If I am wrong please start a list, start with William Rodriquez and Charlie Sheen facts on 9/11.

I will help:

The William Rodriquez and Charlie Sheen list of facts on 9/11.

1.
 
TraitorBasher said:
I dont think ive ever seen a truther mocking them.
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You don't really pay much attention to anything, do you? Jason Bermas has, on at least one occasion, stated that they were paid off. While not fighfighters or police officers, MaGZ continues to insist that the Otis fighter pilots are lying about allegedly firing a number of missiles at Flight 175, but missing and striking WTC7 instead.


But my response is irrelevant to this. You cannot justify Rodriguez's treatment just because truthers might do the same thing.
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Lisa wasn't trying to justify whatever treatment you think he may receive. She was pointing out that if you're going to defend a fellow truther by using his hero status that we should expect you to defend anyone else who is considered a hero. Otherwise, you're displaying a double standard.

I did read Hal's quote above. What does any of this have to do with Rodriguez? Has anyone disparaged Mr Bidlack?
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Lyte Trip, I believe, has stated that Mr. Bidlack is either purposefully "exagerrating" or has been "fooled".
 
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