William 'kills deer with spear'

[Tmy]

I see what your saying. I dont hunt and dont care for it, but I feel I cant morally complian about hunters because I enjoy eating meat n all.

Same goes for people who wear fur. Lots of the public gets upset about fur, all the while they wear leather. I figure if its OK to wear leather, then its ok to wear fur. Id be a hypocrite to complain about the latter since Im part ofthe former.

 

[HarryKeogh]

Same goes for people who wear fur. Lots of the public gets upset about fur, all the while they wear leather. I figure if its OK to wear leather, then its ok to wear fur. Id be a hypocrite to complain about the latter since Im part ofthe former.

i must admit, my first thought when i see someone with a fur quote is "how cruel and gaudy". of course i'm probably wearing leather shoes at the time so i have to remind myself not to be a hypocrite.

sometimes i'll try to justify it in my head by saying they use all of the cow (skin for leather and flesh for meat) whereas they just use the skin from the animals raised for fur but for all i know that might not always be the case.

 

[Segnosaur]

He was coming right at us!

And that's one dear that won't starve to death.

 

[WildCat]

sometimes i'll try to justify it in my head by saying they use all of the cow (skin for leather and flesh for meat) whereas they just use the skin from the animals raised for fur but for all i know that might not always be the case.

The whole mink, chinchilla, nutria, or whatever is used, they make cat/dog food out of the byproduct, probably fertilizer also.

 

[Cain]

Time, lack of desire, and an aversion against repititious thread topics conspired to prevent me from replying promptly.

Randfan clarifies his position (ack, where did my scare quotes go?):

1.) I think that people who kill simply for sport are a**holes. I have stated quite clearly that this is my opinion.

2.) I don't feel the need to justify anything to anyone.

Why do you think they're ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊?

They hunt animals for the pleasure. You eat animals for pleasure.* If you're suggesting that hunting "simply for the sport of it" is meaningless or wasteful (i.e. lacks justification), then you're not exactly on strong ground crying about eating what you hunt.

*The apparently implicit -- and false -- assumption, though widely held, is that you're consuming animals for long-term personal survival rather than a moment of frivolous sadistic pleasure. That's obviously false given readily available vegetarian alternatives.

Conclusion: The differences between you and hunters comes down to a matter of degree rather than kind. Therefore, in your own terms, you're both ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. But hey, who isn't?

P.S. spare me the usual, "I think about things critically, objectively," or "I grew up on a farm," and, I hate to add this one but it always comes up, "I defended Bill Clinton!!"