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Will Trump be re-elected?

Will trump be re-elected?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 14.5%

  • No

    Votes: 80 41.5%

  • Don't know, but I hope not

    Votes: 82 42.5%

  • Don't know, but I hope he does

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Total voters
    193
MrFliop said:
Well, we are less than a month into Donald Trump's presidency and so far he has a record low approval rating and has created so much controversy. Things don't look too good for him now.
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Pretty much the same state of affairs as before he was elected.
 
Rasmussen has a heavy conservative bias. Almost every other poll is not favorable to Trump.
But be happy with your Dictator wannabe.
 
Ending 200 years of democracy in America with a semi facist authotarian regime is a high price to pay for a few tax cuts.
 
dudalb said:
Ending 200 years of democracy in America with a semi facist authotarian regime is a high price to pay for a few tax cuts.
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Don't be silly.

The tax cuts aren't the only incentive. The people getting those cuts are the ultra-rich who will also get to disenfranchise and effectively enslave the masses, all while defending themselves with a military so well armed that civilian resistance will be impossible.

We're marching back to feudalism and will stay there until there's armament equity between the soldiers defending the elite and the citizens fighting for freedom. That probably won't happen until a few generations in when the elite's armies shrink, either through complacency or economic downturn.
 
halleyscomet said:
Don't be silly.

The tax cuts aren't the only incentive. The people getting those cuts are the ultra-rich who will also get to disenfranchise and effectively enslave the masses, all while defending themselves with a military so well armed that civilian resistance will be impossible.

We're marching back to feudalism and will stay there until there's armament equity between the soldiers defending the elite and the citizens fighting for freedom. That probably won't happen until a few generations in when the elite's armies shrink, either through complacency or economic downturn.
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A little over the top, methinks.
 
Yes.

If he acts randomly, and each random act cancels out every other random
act then in total producing no motion in any direction. The government
will act as if the previous administration had went on an extended vacation.

The economy will continue growing, taking us out of recession territory.
With employment and wages restored, he will get reelected.
 
Wayward son said:
Yes, and it didn't dent her favourability rating because everyone knows that partisans are going to partisan. Despite the barrage for decades Gallop had her net favourability in the first half of 2015 as +23 - similar to her numbers going back several years - and going all the way back to when Bill first ran it had never been negative. Almost overnight it fell to -19. She was immune to the continuous Republican smear campaign, but not this - This was very different. Her favourability ratings dropped like a stone when Sanders and Stein picked up the Putin/authoritarian led lies and conspiracy theories about her and spread those into the democratic voting population. The exact same thing will happen to whoever the next Democratic party nominee is.
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I don't think the numbers bear that out. Gallup has a convenient page with historic listings for a host of notable people, and you can see that Hillary's favourability rating was already not much when she announced on 12 April 2015 her candidacy, with Bernie announcing his candidacy shortly after, on 25 May 2015. During that time there wasn't much campaigning, and what there was was about Wall Street, health care and such, not about Russian-fed lies, and Gallup already saw Bernie surging ahead (link), In the fall of 2015 Hillary's ratings further dropped and Gallup attributes it to the ongoing "email scandal" (link). At that time, the campaign - primaries had not yet begun - was still courteous and only focused on differences in economic outview, IIRC.

BTW, it's interesting to see Ted Cruz' favourability ratings there: as more people got to know him, they all got to dislike him. :)
 
McHrozni said:
California, Oregon, Washington, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Delaware, Rhode Island, Vermont, Maryland, Illinois, Idaho and Minnesota currently have Democrat majorities in state Senates. That's 15 states, two more than is absolutely necessary to prevent such an amendment. Barring an unprecedented red wave in 2018, Trump will not be able to secure state support
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(OT) Really guys, won't you change those confusing colors for parties? Given its current make-up, I suggest brown instead for the GOP.

McHrozni said:
Alt-Right is too incompetent to assassinate a man [Bannon, ddt] protected by the SS.
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A very confusing abbreviation in this context. :boxedin:
 
Where is planet X?

The I don't know and will wait to see what he actually does with the economy and policies rather than what we think he is likely to do?

I am pessimistic. But I am no way going to judge his presidency or re-electability by 1 month in office!:covereyes That seems just silly.
 
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halleyscomet said:
Will Bannon be able to continue dancing the line between white supremacist ideologies and "I can't be racist, I'm a Jew!" to avoid being targeted for assassination by the more overtly NAZI portions of the Alt-Right? While the Alt-Right turning aginst him and successfully assassinating him is unlikely, it's still close enough to the realm of possibility that Bannon would be a fool to not prepare for the contingency.
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Er, what? Bannon.is of Irish Catholic heritage. Breitbart was Jewish though.
 
There's a very good chance he does not win re-election, but obviously it's too soon to tell. The outcome will mostly depend on the economy. The Republican controlled Congress already raised the debt ceiling 9 trillion dollars ("deficits don't matter"), so if Trump gets a ton of stimulus via tax cuts and infrastructure spending, and there's no crash, sure, he'll win re-election.
 
Polls show that voters would choose a democrat over Trump, but not if its Elizabeth Warren

Politico/Morning Consult 2/9-2/10

Trump: 35% Democratic Candidate: 43%

Trump: 42% Warren: 36%
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halleyscomet said:
Trump's currently trying to antagonize Iran into war. Once we have a fresh shooting war Trump's win in 2020 is pretty much in the bag. He'll ramp up the fear and terror to new heights.

Like George W., he's treating the security briefings entirely too lightly. Justified or not, failing to act on Clinton-era intelligence is considered by some to be one of the contributing factors to the 9/11 terror attacks. If Trump presides over a terrorist attack on US soil he's going to be VERY difficult to defeat in 2020.

He's not going to be impeached. By the time the mid-term elections come around, he'll have so much Fear, Uncertainly and Doubt in play the Democrats will probably lose seats, not gain them. Anyone hoping the GOP will impeach him is living in a fantasy land. They'll probably try to contain the damage he does to their brand but in the end, a powerful populist leader typically leads to more power for his party.

The real questions in my mind are not if Trump will be a two-termer. What I wonder about is:

Will Trump get a constitutional amendment passed to remove the POTUS term limit and allow himself to run for a third term?

Will Bannon be able to continue dancing the line between white supremacist ideologies and "I can't be racist, I'm a Jew!" to avoid being targeted for assassination by the more overtly NAZI portions of the Alt-Right? While the Alt-Right turning aginst him and successfully assassinating him is unlikely, it's still close enough to the realm of possibility that Bannon would be a fool to not prepare for the contingency.
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This must be what intellectuals ponder. Hilarious!
 
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