Will the internet survive energy contraction?

why would they want to propagate a genetic line of burdensome and unfit people?
 
Why not just euthanize you and not waste the time and resources carrying an unfit baby to term?
 
TFian said:
Not rubbish

State fines conspiracy writer in harassment case

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090925/NEWS/909250330
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The case against Ruppert is extemely dubious. It certainly doesn't support your claim that he is "a known sexual harasser":

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/to_a_hammer_everything_is_a_nail.shtml

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/to_a_hammer_everything_is_a_nail_part_ii.shtml

Delmart "Mike" Vreeland -- a primary source for Ruppert's conspiracy theory screed Crossing the Rubicon -- has been sentenced to 336 years in prison for pedophilia

http://www.kdvr.com/kdvr-douglascomangets336years-7716585,0,1532614.story
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How does that support your ridiculous claim that he has "been known to consort with pedophiles"? [my bold]

"If you actually READ the two chapters in question you will find them very cold indeed about Mr. Vreeland, and remarkably focused instead on the sole question of a particular document's authenticity or lack thereof." Jamey Hecht, Crossing the Rubicon's editor.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=4748650#post4748650
 
JihadJane said:
The case against Ruppert is extemely dubious. It certainly doesn't support your claim that he is "a known sexual harasser":

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/to_a_hammer_everything_is_a_nail.shtml

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/to_a_hammer_everything_is_a_nail_part_ii.shtml



How does that support your ridiculous claim that he has "been known to consort with pedophiles"? [my bold]

"If you actually READ the two chapters in question you will find them very cold indeed about Mr. Vreeland, and remarkably focused instead on the sole question of a particular document's authenticity or lack thereof." Jamey Hecht, Crossing the Rubicon's editor.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=4748650#post4748650
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So what, you like Mike Ruppert? Even I think the guy is a fruitcake lol. Also don't use his website to try to defend him against legal accusations, he's obviously biased. I don't really care if he's a sexual harasser and pedophile (though I wouldn't be surprised), I do think he's pretty funny though.
 
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TFian said:
So what, you like Mike Ruppert? Even I think the guy is a fruitcake lol. Also don't use his website to try to defend him against legal accusations, he's obviously biased. I don't really care if he's a sexual harasser and pedophile (though I wouldn't be surprised), I do think he's pretty funny though.
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Thank you for withdrawing your accusations.
 
excaza said:
Buy a big plot of land, some animals, get rid of all your clothing (can't have any of those pesky man-made materials), electronics, your house (gotta build a new one by hand!), get rid of your electricity, your running water (wells or streams only!). That should be a good start.

Lots of stuff to do, get moving!
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And a composting privy, all iron mongery must be purchased or bartered for. Hmm, matches, no lighters.
 
TFian, defending himself against accusations of sociopathy:
TFian said:
If you all die, or all live, makes no difference to me.
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That settled, let's return to a question of far greater relevance to TFian's way of life:

Yes, the Internet will survive energy contraction.
 
W.D.Clinger said:
TFian, defending himself against accusations of sociopathy:



That settled, let's return to a question of far greater relevance to TFian's way of life:

Yes, the Internet will survive energy contraction.
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Hmm, I don't think so.

Global energy consumption of the internet is estimated at 3-5%, but growing very rapidly.

http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk...owing-report-finds/(energysavingtrust)/697758

http://www.fastcompany.com/1601894/greenpeace-cloud-computing-greenhouse-gas-emissions-to-triple
 
TFian said:
Hmm, I don't think so.

Global energy consumption of the internet is estimated at 3-5%, but growing very rapidly.

http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk...owing-report-finds/(energysavingtrust)/697758

http://www.fastcompany.com/1601894/greenpeace-cloud-computing-greenhouse-gas-emissions-to-triple
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Huh? The internet is supposed to consume (according to your second link) about 2 trillion kWh -- call it six quadrillion BTU -- in 2020. World energy production today is about 500 quadrillion BTU.

How do you get 3-5% out of these numbers? My math says that even with no growth in energy production, that's still in the 1% range. Most policy wonks suggest 1-2% production growth a year for the next decade.
 
drkitten said:
Huh? The internet is supposed to consume (according to your second link) about 2 trillion kWh -- call it six quadrillion BTU -- in 2020. World energy production today is about 500 quadrillion BTU.

How do you get 3-5% out of these numbers? My math says that even with no growth in energy production, that's still in the 1% range. Most policy wonks suggest 1-2% production growth a year for the next decade.
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Well it was in my first link, though it seems to be down at the moment. I'll see if I can find a copy.
 
TFian said:
Well it was in my first link, though it seems to be down at the moment. I'll see if I can find a copy.
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Well, I don't see why finding a second copy of something that's obviously wrong will help....
 
TubbaBlubba said:
Why. Why. Why. Why. Why do you keep referring to this man as "Grand Archdruid"? Are you part of some cult?
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"Grand Archdruid" is John Michael Greer's legitimate title. Should you doubt that, I refer you to the official biographies provided by the Ancient Order of Druids in America.

Grand Archdruid Greer is assisted by the official
  • Archdruid of Water
  • Archdruid of Fire
  • Archdruid of Air
  • Grand Pendragon
  • Grand Almoner
  • Grand Herald
Some of us may be skeptical of arguments from authority, but few arguments from authority are backed up by that collection of expertise.
 
When I get my Master's degree, can I force people to call me master?
 
Giggywig said:
No Archdruid of Earth?
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