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Wikileaks drops another load

marplots said:
I don't see it as discrediting the CIA. It's actually pretty admirable. Very James Bond.
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From the OP article:
Another program described in the documents, named Umbrage, is a voluminous library of cyberattack techniques that the C.I.A. has collected from malware produced by other countries, including Russia. According to the WikiLeaks release, the large number of techniques allows the C.I.A. to mask the origin of some of its cyberattacks and confuse forensic investigators.
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I have seen other reports, mostly on more right wing media, that detail that the software/malware/hacking tools mentioned in this paragraph are largely of Russian origin, and is thereby used by the CIA to blame a hacking, if discovered, to Russia, and not back to the CIA.

Sure looks like it could be to set up a ... well... alternative fact ... for suspected certain Russian collusions with certain US citizens to be a CIA operation.
 
elgarak said:
From the OP article:

I have seen other reports, mostly on more right wing media, that detail that the software/malware/hacking tools mentioned in this paragraph are largely of Russian origin, and is thereby used by the CIA to blame a hacking, if discovered, to Russia, and not back to the CIA.

Sure looks like it could be to set up a ... well... alternative fact ... for suspected certain Russian collusions with certain US citizens to be a CIA operation.
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Classic move. The only way to tell if the CIA was actually involved is to find strong evidence they weren't. That's the best proof.

Speaking as a US citizen, I feel I'm getting good value for money here. Sure, they are all sneaky bastards, but I want our sneaky bastards to be sneakier than their sneaky bastards.

And with Trump's steady hand at the wheel, what could possibly go wrong?
 
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marplots said:
In dank basement lairs across the US, middle-aged, balding, overweight men are adjusting their aluminum foil skullcaps and feeling satisfied with themselves.
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Wait a minute. How do you know this?

Have you hacked my TV?
 
Darat said:
And I'm sure it is entirely a coincidence that these secret CIA documents have been released at a time when Trump is struggling as a result of his own stupidity.
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Vlad is careful about timing this...
Problem is this release seems to be a big pile of nothing (The CIA spies on people? What a Shocker.......)
 
Trebuchet said:
From the article:


I heard about Samsung TV's listening to everything said in the room more than a year ago, I think. That's why I didn't connect mine to the wi-fi. As far as I know....
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Yep. And we already know that other tv companies (Vizio comes to mind immediately) also use underhanded means for data collection. In other words, they're the ones who put these backdoors into their products, so they can hardly complain when someone else sneaks in through them.

And the thing is, while there have certainly been cases of these data sources being abused - workers using them to spy on family or ex-family and the like - the average person has virtually nothing to worry about, because they simply aren't interesting to anyone outside of their circle of family and friends - and even some of the people in that circle find them boring :D .
 
marplots said:
I expect them to spy, but I don't like it when they get caught doing it.
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I think Trump's wisdom on McCain is paraphrased and engraved on the nifty Chinese knockoff watches he gave to Carter Page, Manafort and Flynn (and one's at the jewelers for Beauregard Sessions). "I like people who weren't caught! You're Fired!"
 
Foolmewunz said:
I think Trump's wisdom on McCain is paraphrased and engraved on the nifty Chinese knockoff watches he gave to Carter Page, Manafort and Flynn (and one's at the jewelers for Beauregard Sessions). "I like people who weren't caught! You're Fired!"
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Ha ha! That's brilliant and probably not far from the truth.
 
marplots said:
Looking through it, the stuff is pretty geeky. All about computer hacks.

Probably better to let the experts at the NYT chew on it and just tell us what they find.
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I kept hearing on Reddit that it was proof Pizzagate was real, and the bro's were so hyped up they couldn't sleep. It wasn't that.
 
I still think Pizzagate about child sex scandals in high places is interesting information, though it's casually dismissed by the mainstream media, and by Fox News, and even by RT. What does it matter if the CIA is bugging anybody they want to, and then categorically denying it? The CIA just seem to blame the Russians for trying to discredit the CIA for deciding the policy in the Middle East, and CIA support for Al Qaeda and Saudi Arabia and Ukraine, and their tortures and assassinations, and being described as the Cocaine Importation Agency. In any case it's only lawyers and journalists and bankers and politicians who get bugged and they have nothing to hide.

I looked on British TV at that Meet the Press late at night yesterday on Sky TV and BBC to see if this matter was being discussed. Ninety percent of it was empty waffle about the upcoming cuts and closures budget, then they changed the subject to Mary Berry's controversial recipe for Italian sauce, and then a brief mention that it's only bad guys who get bugged by these CIA technical methods. There is no legal guarantee of that if it's secret.

It's now been reported that there is hardly a mention of this Wikileaks information on the American media either.
 
Mumbles said:
Yep. And we already know that other tv companies (Vizio comes to mind immediately) also use underhanded means for data collection. In other words, they're the ones who put these backdoors into their products, so they can hardly complain when someone else sneaks in through them.

And the thing is, while there have certainly been cases of these data sources being abused - workers using them to spy on family or ex-family and the like - the average person has virtually nothing to worry about, because they simply aren't interesting to anyone outside of their circle of family and friends - and even some of the people in that circle find them boring :D .
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The Samsung listening is just like Alexa and the Google hub, to be able to act on what you have said they need to be "always listening" there is nothing nefarious about it, it's a feature.
 
Does anyone with half a working brain cell even look at how many yottabytes of storage are required to save all the 'listening' that apparently is going on?
Or the computer power required to search all that data for "significance"?
 
And why would they want to hack into TVs? Looking at people's living rooms and half-naked asses all day long is not going to bring about much except some poor NSA guy's burnout.
 
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