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I think it is disgusting how all of these people are rushing to the defense of the criminalization of political speech. As an American I am ashamed that these people are my countrymen.
Asking the Judicial Commission to investigate possible ethics violations is not criminalizing political speech. Since SCR 60 does not specifically mention recall petitions, this will end up in court. I agree that nothing will come of it, except maybe an updated Code of Judicial Conduct.

Disgusting how you you minimize the most fundamental right Americans have.
Take it to the Wisconsin Supreme Court. According to SCR 60.06 (2)(b), judges lose the following free speech rights:

(b) No judge or candidate for judicial office or judge-elect may

do any of the following:

1. Be a member of any political party.

2. Participate in the affairs, caucuses, promotions, platforms, endorsements, conventions, or activities of a political party or of a candidate for partisan office.

3. Make or solicit financial or other contributions in support of a political party's causes or candidates.

4. Publicly endorse or speak on behalf of its candidates or platforms

Judges disagree on rule interpretation.
Some judges who signed the petition said they were supporting the right to vote.

"I concluded that by signing a recall petition, I wasn't advocating for a particular party, I was advocating for the recall process, which I thought was completely separate and apart," said Brown County Judge Mark Warpinski.

"What I did by signing the recall petition is say that the people of Wisconsin should be allowed to vote again for governor," said Milwaukee County Judge Charles F. Kahn Jr. "I did not support any candidate and I did not support any political party. This is a substantial and important distinction."

Some judges who didn't sign the recall petition had a different take on the issue.

"When you sign up for this job, to some extent you compromise your ability to express your own political beliefs one way or the other," said Brown County Judge Marc Hammer. "I think if you're asked to judge the conduct of others, you need to be mindful of what your conduct is."

Adam Skaggs, senior counsel for Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law, said he doesn't believe signing a recall petition would result in sanctions, but he said it is a gray area that should be avoided.

Professor Richard Painter of the University of Minnesota Law School questioned why judges would expose themselves to the potential perception of bias. He said judges often have to decide cases where the governor or lawmakers are parties, and they sometimes have to rule on close elections.

"For judges to be getting involved in the question of whether the governor ought to be recalled I think is highly inappropriate," Painter said.
 
Not even close.
I think Americans have plenty of freedom of speech. I don't think it matters much. I honestly have no idea what is the best way for people (flesh and blood people) to have equal footing. There must be some reason why corporations spend so much money on elections, right?

Having watched The Century of The Self and studied psychology I'm skeptical that we will act in our best interest. Perception is reality. The people with the money can convince us that Jesus is Lord and Saddam Huessein had WMD.
 
I think Americans have plenty of freedom of speech. I don't think it matters much. I honestly have no idea what is the best way for people (flesh and blood people) to have equal footing. There must be some reason why corporations spend so much money on elections, right?

Having watched The Century of The Self and studied psychology I'm skeptical that we will act in our best interest. Perception is reality. The people with the money can convince us that Jesus is Lord and Saddam Huessein had WMD.

I don't know of a time in US history when that wasn't true.
 
I don't know of a time in US history when that wasn't true.
Well of course. We really need to get away from black and white modes of thinking. I don't long for a utopia. I would like to increase the influence of citizens. I would like public funding for all elections like they do in other countries. I wold like immediate and absolute transparency for campaign donations. Citizen United was not unanimous. It was split 5-4. I think we could limit the influence the wealthy have to give a bit more influence of average people.
 


"The summary on the Florida Senate website said HB 1355, “Expands list of responsibilities of Secretary of State when acting in his or her capacity as chief election officer; requires that third-party voter registration organizations register with Division of Elections and provide division with certain information; requires that division or supervisor of elections make voter registration forms available to third-party voter registration organizations; requires that such forms contain certain information, etc.” An analysis of the bill is also posted at the Florida Senate, if you read it, you’ll ask yourself whether Nelson read the bill he and his fellow progressives are condemning because the bill has benefits for the voter. For instance, the Supervisor of Elections has five days after your info is in the system to tell you the status of your application.
A scare tactic is emerging in legacy media who wail about decreasing Early Vote days from 14 to 8. Even The Orlando Sentinel** admitted county supervisors have the option of keeping sites open up to 12 hours a day. Eight days should be sufficient for anyone to take advantage of early voting.
The bill also gives more options to voters whose information changes: “Additionally, the bill gives a voter who has moved to another county the option to submit an address change update by telephone, e-mail, fax, or other signed writing, instead of just a voter registration application form, provided that the change is provided directly to the supervisor of elections in the county to which he or she has moved. Otherwise the change must be submitted on a voter registration application. This change will facilitate address changes.”
It’s a lengthy bill with 99 amendments, but the 15 page analysis of HB 1355 gives a good rundown of all the aspects.
Nelson fired off a letter to DOJ’s Thomas Perez who handles civil rights matters as long as they’re matters he finds acceptable. Not acceptable to Perez and his colleagues were the New Black Panther fiasco where NBP foot soldiers attempted to intimidate anyone not voting for a Democrat in 2008. Also (apparently) not acceptable to DOJers like Perez were the rights of voters down in Mississippi. The US Report did a previous column on horrific transgressions by Democrats when it came to voting in Mississippi's Noxubee County."


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"The summary on the Florida Senate website said HB 1355, “Expands list of responsibilities of Secretary of State when acting in his or her capacity as chief election officer; requires that third-party voter registration organizations register with Division of Elections and provide division with certain information; requires that division or supervisor of elections make voter registration forms available to third-party voter registration organizations; requires that such forms contain certain information, etc.” An analysis of the bill is also posted at the Florida Senate, if you read it, you’ll ask yourself whether Nelson read the bill he and his fellow progressives are condemning because the bill has benefits for the voter. For instance, the Supervisor of Elections has five days after your info is in the system to tell you the status of your application.
Nonsense.

  • There was no demonstrable need for the law.
  • It's already been used to keep people from registering to vote and to harass people who have tried to get people to register to vote.
Stephen Colbert mocks Florida voter registration laws

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I wold like immediate and absolute transparency for campaign donations.

Why?

Like I said in another thread, if someone gives a million dollars to Michelle Bachman so she can run ads telling me to vote for her, good for them. I won't do it, of course, because she's an idiot. Who gave her the money is of no interest to me.
 
Why not? Why would people want to hide their donations?

Like I said in another thread, if someone gives a million dollars to Michelle Bachman so she can run ads telling me to vote for her, good for them. I won't do it, of course, because she's an idiot. Who gave her the money is of no interest to me.
So rich people who give money to politicians are simply stupid and have no way of knowing if they ever get anything for their money?
 
So rich people who give money to politicians are simply stupid and have no way of knowing if they ever get anything for their money?


Maybe sometimes.

I'll let you know if I can think of, specifically, when that might have been :D
 
Why not? Why would people want to hide their donations?

People donate money anonymously to museums all the time. Why they wish to do so is their business.

So rich people who give money to politicians are simply stupid and have no way of knowing if they ever get anything for their money?

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
 
People donate money anonymously to museums all the time. Why they wish to do so is their business.
I'm talking about political donations. Money has a corrupting influence. Daylight is a great disinfectant. So, again, why not?

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
The rich and powerful spend a lot of money on politics. Why? Are they stupid or are most of them getting something for their money?
 
Who gave her the money is of no interest to me.
When govts act in the best interest of the rich and powerful to the detriment of ordinary citizens that is of interest to me. BTW: Bachman had a shot. Rich people like to gamble and paying for a candidate to win the presidency can buy an awful lot of influence.
 
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I'm talking about political donations. Money has a corrupting influence. Daylight is a great disinfectant. So, again, why not?

The rich and powerful spend a lot of money on politics. Why? Are they stupid or are most of them getting something for their money?

I guess I just don't have the need to know.
 

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