Why wouldn't bigfoot hunt humans?

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Cainkane1 said:
Lets assume for a moment bigfoot exists. These creatures would be like bears who seldom attack humans for fear of retaliation. Bigfoot would know this also.
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We know that some bears will hunt, kill, and eat humans.

So, it seems logical that some Bigfoot will do the same.

It also seems logical that those same bears would hunt, kill, and eat a human sized bigfoot.

So would a cougar.

There should be intense resource competition between bigfoot and other large mammals.
 
LTC8K6 said:
We know that some bears will hunt, kill, and eat humans.

So, it seems logical that some Bigfoot will do the same.

It also seems logical that those same bears would hunt, kill, and eat a human sized bigfoot.

So would a cougar.

There should be intense resource competition between bigfoot and other large mammals.
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Nope.

Bigfoot fends them off with his hairy godparents.
 
Castro said:
What happens to the gullible believers who realize they have been tricked? I can imagine some of them continuing to play and enjoying the game instead of leaving it. If their involvement was important, it could be a way to avoid a vacuum and to protect their ego.
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That's a good question. Considering the exploits of any number of these Bigfoot organizations, there's surely a number of these people. "But Matt told me it was real."

OntarioSquatch said:
The NAWAC's recent paper gives an idea of how often they make mistakes and what kind of mistakes they make. The reality seems to be that they are somehow able to accurately assess details about humans such as how well we are able to see and hear and slowly push their luck based on that. Never pushing their luck to the point where they are in any possible danger. That takes a great deal of intelligence. These people are supposedly in an area where there are lot of these animals, yet the frequency of sightings is once every 6 weeks per person with the average time being only several seconds. In other words, these animals don't give people any opportunity. It's frustrating seeing people assume that Bigfoot would behave like a known animal. It's not a known animal so it might not act like one.
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Giving you the benefit of the doubt, you're a BLAARGer. But even a BLAARGer (as opposed to a BLOGGER) has to re-read what he writes sometimes. You realize you're arguing (special pleading) that "the reality" says Bigfoot can "accurately assess details about humans"?! Which reality is that exactly? Mine? Yours? NAWAC's? And how do they do it? I mean, even by BLAARGing standards Bigfoot and humans rarely come into contact with each other when one "believes" in Bigfoot and even rarer when they don't. Where does all this "assessment" happen? And what "details about humans" exactly? Just general ones like the fact we live in homes for shelter and not suspicious stick structures that offer no actual shelter? That we too walk on only two legs? Or more specific like what sandwich we like best? Part of the absurdity in the claim is you didn't worry about the additional "details such a claim would need to generate (to be true), but you don't care, right? That's stuff for some other Bigfooter more "learned" than you to investigate.

Also, even you note the ever-present brevity of the typical Bigfoot "sighting". Brevity being arguably the single most common trait described in any Bigfoot sighting ever. Like a Fight Club rule, you can't see Bigfoot, you can only glimpse him. Why is that I wonder.

Do you realize you're always giving the benefit of the doubt to Bigfoot? And yes ironically, NEVER to us? You're compelled to as a BLAARGer. There's no game if you don't. Note that in all your writings, Bigfoot never loses. He never takes a hit. You've seemingly got an answer for literally everything that says there is no Bigfoot. Care to explain why you would "care to explain" it all away IF you're not a BLAARGer? I mean, considering true reality says nobody sees the Bigfoot. Not no way, not no how.
 
There isn't any benefit of the doubt I can give to the idea that they aren't real. I know this probably belongs in the wood ape thread, but if you've read the paper and listened to the podcasts, you know that the animals allegedly come as close as 10 feet at night, but once the sun starts rising they are no where to be seen. Another revealing detail is that when they are close by, they walk only when the wind starts blowing in an attempt to mask the sound of their footsteps. It's obvious to me that they have near-human intelligence and are able assess humans based on their own observation and testing (throwing rocks and seeing how you react).

Both proponents and skeptics are underestimating this animal. With that being said though, they do make mistakes. Otherwise, the shooting incident with Daryl Colyer would never have occurred. It's very possible that someone can take one of these animals down if they get a good shot. Whether that person will be able to recover the body and escape unharmed is another story. Who is to say that Bigfoot has never lost?
 
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OntarioSquatch said:
There isn't any benefit of the doubt I can give to the idea that they aren't real. I know this probably belongs in the wood ape thread, but if you've read the paper and listened to the podcasts, you know that the animals allegedly come as close as 10 feet at night, but once the sun starts rising they are no where to be seen. Another revealing detail is that when they are close by, they walk only when the wind starts blowing in an attempt to mask the sound of their footsteps. It's obvious to me that they have near-human intelligence and are able assess humans based on their own observation and testing (throwing rocks and seeing how you react).
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Baseless assertions.
Both proponents and skeptics are underestimating this animal. With that being said though, they do make mistakes. Otherwise, the shooting incident with Daryl Colyer would never have occurred. It's very possible that someone can take one of these animals down if they get a good shot. Whether that person will be able to recover the body and escape unharmed is another story. Who is to say that Bigfoot has never lost?
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Baseless assertions.
 
OntarioSquatch said:
There isn't any benefit of the doubt I can give to the idea that they aren't real. I know this probably belongs in the wood ape thread, but if you've read the paper and listened to the podcasts, you know that the animals allegedly come as close as 10 feet at night, but once the sun starts rising they are no where to be seen. Another revealing detail is that when they are close by, they walk only when the wind starts blowing in an attempt to mask the sound of their footsteps. It's obvious to me that they have near-human intelligence and are able assess humans based on their own observation and testing (throwing rocks and seeing how you react).

Both proponents and skeptics are underestimating this animal. With that being said though, they do make mistakes. Otherwise, the shooting incident with Daryl Colyer would never have occurred. It's very possible that someone can take one of these animals down if they get a good shot. Whether that person will be able to recover the body and escape unharmed is another story. Who is to say that Bigfoot has never lost?
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So you can confidently call it intelligent but you can also confidently dismiss as anthropomorphism any idea of what constitutes intelligent behavior. It's nearly as smart as we are, but it is happy to live like a groundhog.

It's beginning to sound as if Bigfoot is a god, its awesome capabilities matched only by its unfathomable motives.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Blaarging...

Chain pulling...

Making stuff up...

There's no way he believes these things he writes, imo.

No way any adult would.
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It's the monster in the closet, the monster under the bed, but instead of the adults reassuring the kids, the adults are acting like kids. Which is fine among footers but you can't expect rational adults not to call you on it, and you can't possibly be offended when your nonsense is subject to scoffing and laughter.
 
OntarioSquatch said:
It's very possible that someone can take one of these animals down if they get a good shot. Whether that person will be able to recover the body and escape unharmed is another story.
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I had three grizzlies charging me in a narrow draw, going after the moose I had down. Smallest in the front, second largest in the middle, and this monster in the back. They exploded out of the woods on a dead gallop, fast as horses.

I'd gotten the guts out of the moose already and broke through the pelvis, the sun was mostly down and getting too dark so I was hiking back to the supercub on a gravel bar I had landed on, going back along this draw about 4' deep with a dry channel. Easy walking. Going to get my lantern, headlamps, and warmer gear.

I shouldered my .375 H&H magnum, really worried about not being able to see but to my surprise I could see better through the scope because it collected light. I was yelling "you better stop!", but they were already on me, looking straight at me, and so I squeezed off the first round.

I shot him through the lower jaw as he was taking a big gulp of air and then it went straight through the rib cage and heart. He did a summersault and the second & third bears charged right past him, bearing down on me. The third one bit at the downed one as he went by, who had let out a big yelp while doing the summersault.

I had chambered a round already from training so much to do just that - one of the things a novice hunter will do is squeeze one off, miss, and blow a second shot because he's lost in buck fever. That second bear fell over, whump! Talk about gratitude, another shot straight in the heart.

So the third one is on me now and I was in the middle of yelling "you better stop" again. I didn't want to lay down three bears, and was just starting to pull the trigger when he stopped to look back at the other two, so I halted. He couldn't have been 20 feet away.

He looked confused for a bit, then jumped up on top of the draw. I skinned those other two up on through the night and would occasionally look over to see his red eyes glowing and bobbing. A wolf had done the same thing some years before near that spot, staying just outside the lantern shine I had hanging on this moose's antlers. I had my .44 with copper jacketed hollow points unholstered and that elephant gun never more than arm's reach away.

That second one was 3/4" shy of a Boone and Crocket record bear. When I brought the skull and hide in to fish and game the gal there asked me where the radio collar was. lol - I was scared when I found it and sort of lost it out the window of the supercub while I was flying back over the Tanana River.

I was flabbergasted how she could know, but she showed me the green tattoo inside the ear. It isn't illegal to shoot them, I had a tag and self-defense is a legitimate reason even if you don't have a tag. But I didn't want to be the one who shot a research bear and they figured it out anyway.

I mention this story because in the real world even three charging grizzlies don't stand a chance against an armed man and I am not here speculating like you are. Fish and Game has this radio-collared bear on record - they know it is real and they shot if with a dart from a helicopter, tracked it for years, and have my name down as the one who killed it. I have the hide, skull, plus others, one I shot point-blank trying to get in through my front door.

Talk about evidence.

And lastly, when these 'footers are talking about how they were the most scared they ever were in their lives then that is a signal to me they are making the story up. Because in these types of encounters, sudden and unpredicted, there's no time to be scared. You are too busy to be scared. Waiting in a foxhole for the enemy to arrive some hours away - that is totally different. You have a lot of time to build up fear and nothing to occupy your mind.

The real world of the woods, animals, what a hunter can do with a gun - it is just so far removed from these BLAARGing representations. I wasn't worried about "escaping". I didn't want to wipe all of them out.
 
William Parcher said:
Why do bears and tigers kill and eat people who hike in pairs?
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Not often, though: the most recent fatal North American bear attack involving two people listed on Wikipedia is a decade old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America

Of course, the list brings up another question.

Fatal bear attacks are rare events in North America, happening three or four times a year. I can't imagine there are many responders unfortunate enough to be involved in more than one in their entire career. Yet time and time again, they're able to find out about the attack, locate the remains, and kill the individual bear responsible. That's pretty amazing.

No bigfoot DNA, though. Funny that.
 
John Nowak said:
Not often, though: the most recent fatal North American bear attack involving two people listed on Wikipedia is a decade old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America

Of course, the list brings up another question.

Fatal bear attacks are rare events in North America, happening three or four times a year. I can't imagine there are many responders unfortunate enough to be involved in more than one in their entire career. Yet time and time again, they're able to find out about the attack, locate the remains, and kill the individual bear responsible. That's pretty amazing.

No bigfoot DNA, though. Funny that.
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From your link.
Stewart was conducting research alone in the Bridger-Teton National Forest in northwest Wyoming. After he failed to return, a search found his body. The coroner suspects it was a grizzly bear, but the species hasn't officially been determined.
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Bigfoot done it.
 
AlaskaBushPilot said:
I mention this story because in the real world even three charging grizzlies don't stand a chance against an armed man ...
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That conclusion is not corroborated by your own story. You had two lethal shots that hit in just the right place - if I take your story at face value. How often does somebody make two near perfect shots at wildly running targets? How often does a hunter/hiker/other have just the right weapons to bring down a huge bear with one shot?

The more I think about it, the more I put your story in the same box as OntarioSatch's. Sorry.
 
SezMe said:
That conclusion is not corroborated by your own story. You had two lethal shots that hit in just the right place - if I take your story at face value. How often does somebody make two near perfect shots at wildly running targets? How often does a hunter/hiker/other have just the right weapons to bring down a huge bear with one shot?

The more I think about it, the more I put your story in the same box as OntarioSatch's. Sorry.
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a44_1238995443

Video might be too graphic for some to watch.

Better resolution:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7fd_1225037306
 
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ABP ignored two points that were raised right before he made up that story. The first being that Bigfoot and bears are two different animals. The second being how rare it is to have a bear attack you, let alone three. Ok, it's possible that a grizzly bear will attack if it somehow feels threatened, but the story about three of them charging just sounds so unnatural that I now question if AlaskaBushPilot has even watched a documentary on North American wildlife.


The only conclusion is he is Bear Live Action Alternate Reality Gaming! He's BLAARGing!
 
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