Why truthers are dangerouse!
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HyJinX
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What's dark is your insinuation that innocent US citizens ordered and planned the death of 3,000 fellow citizens. You do so with impunity, lack of evidence and vigor...all the while dismissing and apologizing for those who actually did plan and execute the event. Have you no shame? The only positive transition that I hope can be achieved is that you grow out of your void of logic.
Make that eleven....welcome AW..
Some of us are here because this is a skeptical forum that advances critical thinking. And some of us fear that there are too many people in the world falling for these kinds of deluded, nonsensical fairy tales. And this is making the world a worse place, not a better place.
So we like to go to places like this where reality is championed, and fantasy is put in it's place. It's an educational forum, after all.
And it's not just 9-11 related, in case you didn't notice. Suggesting that people who inhabit these forums are equivalent to people who inhabt 9-11 conspiracy forums is laughable. This is an all around forum for discussion all nature of fantasy and woo.
If anything, it's YOU guys who demonstrate the problem. Spending all your time on conspiracy boards, and continually coming back here under a million sock puppets, so obviously determined to get whatever victories you can over those terrible, evil skeptics. If we were so irrelelvant.. if you guys were really on the verge of taking over.. you'd find us insignificant and unimportant. Yet you guys keep coming back, all full of bluster and arrogance, and telling us over and over how the truth is finally going to come out. You are living in dream worlds. You are the ones who are obsessed with it.
The rest of us are just trying to keep other naive minds from straying into your insanity. Not just for their sake, but for the sake of everyone.
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johnny karate
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jmh423, google "NYCCAN" if you want to see how your supposedly inevitable new investigation (SPOILER ALERT:Truther Fail).
As far as why some of us are here, speaking for myself I'm here to laugh at the endless barrage of deranged Truthers who spew nonsensical bluster, and eventually melt down and get themselves banned. We get one every month or so, and it's always entertaining to watch them crash and burn.
As far as why some of us are here, speaking for myself I'm here to laugh at the endless barrage of deranged Truthers who spew nonsensical bluster, and eventually melt down and get themselves banned. We get one every month or so, and it's always entertaining to watch them crash and burn.
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Well said.
I have engaged in three or four forums, as Carlito can attest. I always post under JMH423...So immiediately your "sock puppet" line is a flat out lie. If you think that you are making the world a better place by defending scum like Bush, Cheney, Perle, Wolfowitz, Zakheim, Rumsfeld and their puppet masters who own the Federal Reserve & the international banks you are a delusional fool champ. You are the one displaying the bluster and arrogance...The "you guys" you are talking about is "We The People" as in the US Constitution. Relax pal and get some fresh air into that brain. You'll figure it out soon enough. Thanks for becoming the twelfth futile, and yet rabid attacker today...Number twenty gets a free submarine sandwitch!!
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HyJinX
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Yeah...you're not angry or politically motivated
See ya at the new investigation party, lil guy! Oh...when is the date again?
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jmh423 you are irrelevant. 9-11 was NOT an inside job. The Jews are not trying to control the world. The world is, however, filled with injustice, pain, and evil people. Do try to find something to stand for that isn't a bunch of crap. The world will thank you.
You see fellows...This is still very troubling to me and millions of others throughout the world. In my opinion this issue needs a real close look:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/israeli_spies_911.html
EXCERPT:
"In June 2002, ABC News' 20/20 followed up with its own investigation into the matter, coming to the same conclusion as The Forward. Vincent Cannistraro, former chief of operations for counterterrorism with the CIA, told 20/20 that some of the names of the five men appeared as hits in searches of an FBI national intelligence database. Cannistraro told me that the question that most troubled FBI agents in the weeks and months after 9/11 was whether the Israelis had arrived at the site of their "celebration" with foreknowledge of the attack to come. From the beginning, "the FBI investigation operated on the premise that the Israelis had foreknowledge", according to Cannistraro. A second former CIA counterterrorism officer who closely followed the case, but who spoke on condition of anonymity, told me that investigators were pursuing two theories. "One story was that [the Israelis] appeared at Liberty State Park very quickly after the first plane hit. The other was that they were at the park location already". Either way, investigators wanted to know exactly what the men were expecting when they got there.
Before such issues had been fully explored, however, the investigation was shut down. Following what ABC News reported were "high-level negotiations between Israeli and U.S. government officials", a
settlement was reached in the case of the five Urban Moving Systems suspects. Intense political pressure apparently had been brought to bear. The reputable Israeli daily Ha'aretz reported that by the last week of October 2001, some six weeks after the men had been detained, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and two unidentified "prominent New York congressmen" were lobbying heavily for their release. According to a source at ABC News close to the 20/20 report, high-profile criminal lawyer Alan Dershowitz also stepped in as a negotiator on behalf of the men to smooth out differences with the U.S. government. (Dershowitz declined to comment for this article.) And so, at the end of November 2001, for reasons that only noted they had been working in the country illegally as movers, in violation of their visas, the men were flown home to Israel."
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/israeli_spies_911.html
EXCERPT:
"In June 2002, ABC News' 20/20 followed up with its own investigation into the matter, coming to the same conclusion as The Forward. Vincent Cannistraro, former chief of operations for counterterrorism with the CIA, told 20/20 that some of the names of the five men appeared as hits in searches of an FBI national intelligence database. Cannistraro told me that the question that most troubled FBI agents in the weeks and months after 9/11 was whether the Israelis had arrived at the site of their "celebration" with foreknowledge of the attack to come. From the beginning, "the FBI investigation operated on the premise that the Israelis had foreknowledge", according to Cannistraro. A second former CIA counterterrorism officer who closely followed the case, but who spoke on condition of anonymity, told me that investigators were pursuing two theories. "One story was that [the Israelis] appeared at Liberty State Park very quickly after the first plane hit. The other was that they were at the park location already". Either way, investigators wanted to know exactly what the men were expecting when they got there.
Before such issues had been fully explored, however, the investigation was shut down. Following what ABC News reported were "high-level negotiations between Israeli and U.S. government officials", a
settlement was reached in the case of the five Urban Moving Systems suspects. Intense political pressure apparently had been brought to bear. The reputable Israeli daily Ha'aretz reported that by the last week of October 2001, some six weeks after the men had been detained, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and two unidentified "prominent New York congressmen" were lobbying heavily for their release. According to a source at ABC News close to the 20/20 report, high-profile criminal lawyer Alan Dershowitz also stepped in as a negotiator on behalf of the men to smooth out differences with the U.S. government. (Dershowitz declined to comment for this article.) And so, at the end of November 2001, for reasons that only noted they had been working in the country illegally as movers, in violation of their visas, the men were flown home to Israel."
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I must again comment on the coincidence of such deranged Truther rantings appearing in a thread about the potential danger Truthers pose. Who needs to discuss the topic in the abstact when we can watch the madness unfold right in front of us?
Waiting and watching and, currently, laughing.
That has nothing to do with an "offical debunker line". I just watched the video. It is obviously a general talk about terrorism. Hearing about Ben Laden, blowing up planes, and past terrorist events is this context can hardly be called a prediction.
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To "THE CHAMPION OF REALITY"
Ah yes, the "champion of reality as" created by The Carnegie Mellon Foundation, The Royal Institutes Of Brainwashing Inc., BBC, CNN, NBC, and Disney.....(You are truly a legend in your own mind champy)
"Completely irrelavent and lost to the sands of time"....(Are you an assistant writer for a daytime drama? Or perhaps taking a creative writing course at the local JC)....Very poetic..A true hero!!!
You seem a bit upset sport....Pour yourself a drink and relax...Thanks
Ah yes, the "champion of reality as" created by The Carnegie Mellon Foundation, The Royal Institutes Of Brainwashing Inc., BBC, CNN, NBC, and Disney.....(You are truly a legend in your own mind champy)
"Completely irrelavent and lost to the sands of time"....(Are you an assistant writer for a daytime drama? Or perhaps taking a creative writing course at the local JC)....Very poetic..A true hero!!!
You seem a bit upset sport....Pour yourself a drink and relax...Thanks
"Deranged truther rantings"....very nice work champ...Should I turn myself in for your safety?
I have some ideas on what might have happened, but without an extensive and real investigation I don't care to speculate. One thing that is abundantly clear is that the so called "Official Story" is laughable. Grand juries should be impaneled at all three locations and hundreds of witnesses should be brought in and relentlessly grilled under penalty of perjury. Once people are faced with the possibility of being charged with 3000 counts of accessory to murder, many will turn states evidence and then we'd get some indictments and convictions. That is how real criminal investigations are handled. Thusfar we have had nothing but a farcical whitewash. The 911 commission report was a dark comedy.