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Why so much attention to the Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito case

Why so much attention to the Amanda Knox case?


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I am not a fan of justice by popular vote, as I have said before I am content to take part in a “discussion” but I am concerned that a sovereign western country’s justice system and individuals working within it are also subjected to concerted slanders and slurs. Indeed depending on one’s point of view everyone connected to this case has been subjected slanders and slurs including the murder victim, but I guess that is acceptable to some.
Off topic?

The media printed and electronic (national and international) stoked the polarising flames of this case.
True they did and with a particular slant. The press knew what would sell and they sold and sold, mainly newspapers - for good money. Which suggests option 2 may be the correct answer to the poll question, depending on whether it's interpreted as referring to wider public attention or just attention here at JREF.
 
Damon Thibodeaux and Larry Swearingen

Curiously, I see no comment from you in this thread saying that Damon Thibodeaux kept changing his story. Along similar lines Larry Swearingen wrote a letter to the authorities in Spanish to convince the authorities that he was not involved in a murder, and he tried to get others to give him an alibi. He once stole a car, and he may have had a sexual interest in the victim despite being married. Yet I have never heard anyone call him a man of low morals or call his behavior trashy.
 
Amanda Knox and Skepticism 101

It is only the slightest hyperbole, and all but literally true, to call it a modern day witch hunt. Should come as no surprise it struck a nerve on a skeptics forum. It's a natural.

Not that there aren't a variety of other factors that account for the level of intensity that was reached. But, from the start, this particular case was in dire need of skeptical enquiry.
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misleading

So she did change her story! Not having years of training in Amanda Knoxism I did get a fact wrong. Oh noes! I should've and could've said post-murder nite behavior. Doesn't change anything though.
You wrote, “You keep changing your mind like Amanda changes her story." Similarly to Damon Thibodeaux, Amanda changed her story under pressure and changed it back within thirty-six hours. “Keep changing” is a phrase which suggests more than two and suggests behavior that is on-going IMO. Your characterization is a misleading and feckless description that falls short of being strictly false.

You wrote, “She seemed to have engaged in a lot of uncommitted sex with different number of partners in a short period of time.” And in comment #54 you wrote, “It's very reasonable to conclude that a father would not like his daughter's sexual behavior to be made public, especially if she engaged in uncommited sex with different number of partners in a short amount of time.”

The comments above make your own position clear (and it is a position based upon false information). Your dialog between two students came out of your own head, as opposed to being an actual quote. Trying to hide behind quotes that don’t exist is many things, but a convincing argument isn’t one of them.
 
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It is intriguing how an unconnected group of people seem to respond like a rebuttal unit if anything remotely negative is mentioned about Amanda Knox or to a lesser extent Raffaele Sollecito; of course I realise there is no Svengali or controlling authority behind these responses, nonetheless it is curious phenomenon.
I think calling someone a ***** goes a bit beyond "remotely negative." I have gotten to know members of Ms. Knox's family and also Mr. Sollecito's family. Based on my first-hand experience, Ms. Knox is intelligent and empathetic, qualities to be admired and emulated, respectively. Given some of the contents of this thread, is it that surprising that Charlie or I would come to the defense of her and her family? MOO.
 
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Off topic?

Oh I was merely responding to your comment about “slurs and slanders”, but okay.

True they did and with a particular slant. The press knew what would sell and they sold and sold, mainly newspapers - for good money. Which suggests option 2 may be the correct answer to the poll question, depending on whether it's interpreted as referring to wider public attention or just attention here at JREF.

I don’t know if there was a particular slant it seemed to depend on which country you were in and your point of view. Clearly the American media’s position was largely sympathetic to Amanda whilst the UK tabloid printed media focused on early reports of Amanda and Raffaele, with the Italian media treating Meredith’s murder as it would any other murder case in Italy.
 
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It is intriguing how an unconnected group of people seem to respond like a rebuttal unit if anything remotely negative is mentioned about Amanda Knox or to a lesser extent Raffaele Sollecito; of course I realise there is no Svengali or controlling authority behind these responses, nonetheless it is curious phenomenon.

Yes, if you don't agree that AK is a little angel then you get accuse of all kinds of personal failings.
 
I think calling someone a ***** goes a bit beyond "remotely negative." I have gotten to know members of Ms. Knox's family and also Mr. Sollecito's family. Based on my first-hand experience, Ms. Knox is intelligent and empathetic, qualities to be admired and emulated, respectively. Given some of the contents of this thread, is it that surprising that Charlie or I would come to the defense of her and her family? MOO.
My objective point of view is that most if not all the key people connected to this case have been slandered or slurred over the years, I really see not point in getting into a contest as to who said what first, it smacks of 6 year olds arguing who started it first.

The media in its various forms have no interest in this case other than selling their newspaper or getting people you to watch their particular TV channel, do you have an opinion about the media’s involvement in this case?
 
Oh I was merely responding to your comment about “slurs and slanders”, but okay.



I don’t know if there was a particular slant it seemed to depend on which country you were in and your point of view. Clearly the American media’s position was largely sympathetic to Amanda whilst the UK tabloid printed media focused on early reports of Amanda and Raffaele, with the Italian media treating Meredith’s murder as it would any other murder case in Italy.

Well, this definitely is not my specialist subject but there were some prominent American media folk who were very much pro-guilt: Andrea Vogt, Barbie Nadeau, Nancy Grace and Ann Coulter to name but four.
 
national obsession

Oh I was merely responding to your comment about “slurs and slanders”, but okay.



I don’t know if there was a particular slant it seemed to depend on which country you were in and your point of view. Clearly the American media’s position was largely sympathetic to Amanda whilst the UK tabloid printed media focused on early reports of Amanda and Raffaele, with the Italian media treating Meredith’s murder as it would any other murder case in Italy.
Newsweek's coverage (via Barbie Nadeau) doesn't fit with your "sympathetic" characterization, but much of it bears reading. In a 2008 article entitled "Trial of the Century" Ms. Nadeau wrote, "Because the 21-year-old, blue-eyed Seattle native remains a national obsession in Italy, 14 months since Meredith Kercher, a British student in the Erasmus exchange program, was sexually assaulted and brutally murdered in a small rented villa in Perugia." I don't believe that most murder trials in Italy received anywhere near this level of attention from its national press corps.
 
blogosphere versus mainstream press

My objective point of view is that most if not all the key people connected to this case have been slandered or slurred over the years, I really see not point in getting into a contest as to who said what first, it smacks of 6 year olds arguing who started it first.

The media in its various forms have no interest in this case other than selling their newspaper or getting people you to watch their particular TV channel, do you have an opinion about the media’s involvement in this case?
I agree that the desire to sell the largest quantity of newspapers or magazines explains much of the poor-quality coverage. I don't agree that the American media was largely sympathetic. The British press, not just the tabloids, were at least as bad at fact-checking as the American press. Some of the most thorough reporting came from Perugia-Shock, which was a blog.
 
AngloLawyer\Halides1

And here in the UK the Guardian and Independent newspapers supported the position that Amanda and Raffaele are innocent, your point?
 
AngloLawyer\Halides1

And here in the UK the Guardian and Independent newspapers supported the position that Amanda and Raffaele are innocent, your point?
I am not sure I have a point really. The media coverage is not something I know much about. Let's agree there has been a mix of opinion on both sides of the Atlantic. It still leaves the question raised by the OP.
 
The Times they are a changin'

AngloLawyer\Halides1

And here in the UK the Guardian and Independent newspapers supported the position that Amanda and Raffaele are innocent, your point?

John Follain reported for the Sunday Times, and his reporting was among the worst IMO. IIRC Richard Owen reported for the Times, and he broke the bleach receipt false story (perhaps he does not deserve the sole blame for that, however). Of course, the distinction between what is a tabloid vs. what is a broadsheet seems to be murkier than it used to be.
 
John Follain reported for the Sunday Times, and his reporting was among the worst IMO. IIRC Richard Owen reported for the Times, and he broke the bleach receipt false story (perhaps he does not deserve the sole blame for that, however). Of course, the distinction between what is a tabloid vs. what is a broadsheet seems to be murkier than it used to be.

Yes, Owen was writing for the Times.
 
Oh I was merely responding to your comment about “slurs and slanders”, but okay.



I don’t know if there was a particular slant it seemed to depend on which country you were in and your point of view. Clearly the American media’s position was largely sympathetic to Amanda whilst the UK tabloid printed media focused on early reports of Amanda and Raffaele, with the Italian media treating Meredith’s murder as it would any other murder case in Italy.

The American media's position could be due to the million dollar PR campaign in AK's behalf.
 
The American media's position could be due to the million dollar PR campaign in AK's behalf.

There was a million dollar PR campaign in the US that caused all that negative publicity towards Knox? Who paid for it? I would have thought the Kerchers would direct their money towards British media?
 
But regardless of that, a million-dollar PR campaign would be an excellent answer to the question at hand - why so much interest? Huge and expensive PR campaigns have as their very purpose the arousal of interest.

So, as long as we can substantiate the existence of such a campaign, I think the conundrum is solved.

So, tsig, care to back your statement up with some evidence and bring the thread to a close? How did you come by the figure of a million dollars, for example?
 
John Follain reported for the Sunday Times, and his reporting was among the worst IMO. IIRC Richard Owen reported for the Times, and he broke the bleach receipt false story (perhaps he does not deserve the sole blame for that, however). Of course, the distinction between what is a tabloid vs. what is a broadsheet seems to be murkier than it used to be.
Sadly, people are murdered all the time, why do you believe some go largely ignored (by the media) whilst others seem to turn into a media tsunami.

Sorry I note your comments about John Follain and Richard Owen. As I said my balanced and objective point of view is all the key people directly attached to Meredith’s murder and the ongoing legal process have been slurred or slandered in the media and discussion forums.
 
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