Why should Obama be reelected?

JoeTheJuggler said:
Yes, since the election is going to be effectively a choice between a Democratic and a Republican candidate. It's hard to say why one is better without referencing the other.

Can you tell me why 5 > 3 is true without mentioning 3?

If you want to include 3rd party candidates, that's fine too. Can you say why 5 is the greatest among 5, 3, 2 and 1 without referencing anything but the 5?

This really is the kind of choice we make in presidential elections. We're not creating the optimal president. We're choosing from among actual existing choices.
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Then perhaps it is time to change the system so that optimal becomes an option.
 
applecorped said:
There are plenty of threads about the Republican nominees and their various faults/issues/reasons to not be elected.

Why should Obama be reelected? Without mentioning any Republican nominee tell me why should Obama serve another term. What do you hope he accomplishes in his next term?
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More Hope and Change?
 
Puppycow said:
Bin Laden's dead.

I would have preferred that he were also stuffed and mounted but I suppose that would not be practical.
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I'd pay a dollar to see that.

I think Obama WILL be reelected, because I think the Republican Party doesn't want the next 4 years any more than they wanted the last ones. When Newt is the "most reasonable" choice, that suggests the Party isn't actively supporting any of the candidates, just like when McCain (never really liked by the Party) managed to get to the top but couldn't find anyone who was willing to run along side him.

Republicans didn't want to clean up after the Cheney/Rumsfeld administration or the Bush years, and Obama isn't done yet.

Not that I think Obama CAN clean up the mess, especially with Congress actively Not Helping.

Why should Obama be reelected? Because nobody better is running against him.

In "Fantasy Football" politics I'd vote for a Colin Powell / Ghost of Harry Truman ticket.
 
Robert Prey said:
More Hope and Change?
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Pardalis said:
Maybe it's just a coincidence. «Keep America American» isn't very original to start with.
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I have to agree. A three word slogan with extremely common political slogan words like "America" or "American" matching an existing slogan is not a significant match. That being said, once they were aware of the connection, the campaign should have dropped it.

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applecorped said:
There are plenty of threads about the Republican nominees and their various faults/issues/reasons to not be elected.

Why should Obama be reelected? Without mentioning any Republican nominee tell me why should Obama serve another term. What do you hope he accomplishes in his next term?
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Obama is the best one running for the job, therefore I hope that he gets re-elected.

As for what I expect from his next term, ...

No more stupid wars,
No more state-sponsored torture,
Fix the national budget,
Address health-car issues, and
Get the USA economy back on track.
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
And there really is no argument against the equal treatment of homosexuals that doesn't have a religious basis. At least, I've yet to hear any.
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I've heard two that don't depend on religion, although most people that cite these two reasons are religious:

1. The "ikky" factor. Gay sex (and consequently same-sex marriage) is ikky, makes me feel creepy, and must be legislated out of existance.

2. Marriage is sacred (in a cultural, rather than a religious, sense). If gays get married, it will result in at least half of all straight marriages disolving in divorce. And the children - think of the children.

Seriously, while these two reasons are absurd, they don't necessarily depend on a religious under-pinning.

I suspect that anyone so ill-equiped for critical thought as to believe in an omnipotent god is likewise suceptable to believing other equally silly nonsense. So - being religious and practicing bigotry might go hand in hand.
 
MaGZ said:
Obama will bend over and give the gays everything they want.
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I want $350M, a 150" plasma screen television, 6 hot pink 2012 year Porches (doesn't matter what the make or model is, so long as they're expensive), and a beautiful 12-bedroom home in Woodside California with my own private 18-hole golf course.

All I have to do is ask Obama because he gives the gays everything they wan--HEY! Wait a minute, you're using the the old "I'll say something completely false and ridiculous because I'm too dumb to criticize Obama on things he actually does" bait and switch, I see what you did there...
 
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DavidJames said:
No, Tricky is correct. While you may think you are not supporting someone by not voting, you are in fact supporting whoever gets the most votes.

Not voting is a cop out and cowardly.
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When did I say that I'm not going to vote?

I simply said that I will no longer vote for someone who I don't respect.

Most of the people who I vote for have very little likelihood of being elected.

I reject the assertion that I have an obligation to vote for someone who has a real chance of winning regardless of their worth.

I am surrounded by fools and rogues. They will elect whomever they will, but they can't force me to be complicit.
 
Trakar said:
Then perhaps it is time to change the system so that optimal becomes an option.
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To what? Every electoral system is choosing one candidate or party out of a group, no matter what reform. Now if there were more third parties, there may be more choices, but it doesn't follow that the candidates would be better.

If Ron Paul actually goes ahead and makes a third-party run, does that mean that things have improved because he's running third-party? I'd argue no, because at the end of the day, Paul's still crazy.
 
Dessi said:
I want $350M, a 150" plasma screen television, 6 hot pink 2012 year Porches (doesn't matter what the make or model is, so long as they're expensive), and a beautiful 12-bedroom home in Woodside California with my own private 18-hole golf course.

All I have to do is ask Obama because he gives the gays everything they wan--HEY! Wait a minute, you're using the the old "I'll say something completely false and ridiculous because I'm too dumb to criticize Obama on things he actually does" bait and switch, I see what you did there...
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Gays play golf? Next, you'll try and tell me they vote, pay taxes, and get angry in traffic.


President Obama should not be re-elected. He has performed badly on several very important matters, and I'd love to see someone better in office. As soon as I get an opposition candidate that I believe would perform better than Obama, I will vote for him.
 
Complexity said:
When did I say that I'm not going to vote?

I simply said that I will no longer vote for someone who I don't respect.

Most of the people who I vote for have very little likelihood of being elected.

I reject the assertion that I have an obligation to vote for someone who has a real chance of winning regardless of their worth.

I am surrounded by fools and rogues. They will elect whomever they will, but they can't force me to be complicit.
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I understand what you're saying and from a "moral" perspective, somewhat agree. However, given the choice of, for example, 3 candidates:

1 - I disagree with 90% of the time
2 - I disagree with 50% of the time
3 - I agree with 90% of the time.

If #3 has no chance in hell of winning, I'm voting for the second one.

I've been down the road of voting for a 3rd party candidate and concluded I really was helping the guy I hated the most win. It turned out no matter how much I said, "but I voted for #3", I still had to deal with that 90% crap.

Having to live with that reality ended up trumping my pride and ego.
 
JudeBrando said:
Because with all that faces this nation and this world, that's what really matters...
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I don't know. I kinda feel living up to the American ideal and maintaining her values fairly important. Maybe part of keeping America exceptional is being exceptional. Don't you want to keep America exceptional?

Besides, it takes minimal effort to not discriminate against a portion of our own people.
 
Because Jimmy Carter (Obama's closest ideological predecessor) deserves another term.
 
Considering how broken our current government is and how hard the republicans are fighting to keep anything from being done, Obama's still managed to accomplish a considerable amount.

Even better, the bloom is off the rose. We know his limitations when hobbled by a republican house. Die hard politicos didn't expect Obama to wave a magic wand and "fix" things but there were a number of progressives who expected him to be something like a king with ultimate power, not a president who answers to the representatives. They relaxed. That's done with now. People are starting to understand that they need to be involved if they want change.
 
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