There is no such thing as divorce for civil partnerships since they are not marriages. (ETA, pressed submit instead of preview). Civil Partnerships can be ended by a court.
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Rolfe
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Darat, I recognise your idealism and admire it. However, I also recognise that were it to be applied across the board, it not only could and would result in serious injustices, it would actually encourage such injustices.
Has anything said in this thread caused you to consider this aspect?
Rolfe.
Has anything said in this thread caused you to consider this aspect?
Rolfe.
Why do you call it idealism? Certainly my anecdotal evidence is that the current systems (in the UK) is far from perfect and often results in what I would call "serious injustices". (And I don't think we have sufficient knowledge yet to make laws that are perfect.)
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I think it idealism fits perfectly because it does not depend at all on specifics but proscribes a single broad solution for everyone.
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I think it idealism fits perfectly because it does not depend at all on specifics but proscribes a single broad solution for everyone.
That's not a meaning I associate with idealism, I understand it is usually used to mean something like "a belief in perfection".
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That does not seem well supported when I look af various definition locations.
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The first two would seem to fit with how you are viewing marriage.
Eh - I said a "belief in perfection" and the primary definition you quoted says "belief in perfection" and you said that does not seem well supported... My definition is exactly the same as the one you posted!
And to get back to the point the definition you posted does not support the reason you gave as to why my proposals in this thread should be described as "idealism"! You said they were "idealism" because to quote your own words ".... it does not depend at all on specifics but proscribes a single broad solution for everyone." Which as I said and as your own quote and link showed is not a definition of idealism....
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Well the then basicly there are no political idealists. And the term should not be applied to political beliefs.
Then I will simply say you are highly dogmatic.
You seem to be getting yourself tied into knots with an attempt to pass a disparaging comment about my proposals in this thread without bothering to actually criticize my proposals.
At a risk of derailing my own thread - of course there are political idealists since there is nothing contradictory in the definition of "idealism" and "political". With regards to your new attempt at passing a disparaging comment rather than entering into a debate - nothing I have said in this thread is any more dogmaticdict than other Members views on what should form the basis of a divorce settlement. So if my proposals are dogmatic than so are all the other comments which would suggest you have broaden the definition of "dogmatic" to simply mean "having a view on a social issue".
What not try addressing my proposals and what you believe is wrong with them contrasted with what there is in place at the moment? After all that is how you have a discussion and a debate and convince other people that they are wrong.
At a risk of derailing my own thread - of course there are political idealists since there is nothing contradictory in the definition of "idealism" and "political". With regards to your new attempt at passing a disparaging comment rather than entering into a debate - nothing I have said in this thread is any more dogmaticdict than other Members views on what should form the basis of a divorce settlement. So if my proposals are dogmatic than so are all the other comments which would suggest you have broaden the definition of "dogmatic" to simply mean "having a view on a social issue".
What not try addressing my proposals and what you believe is wrong with them contrasted with what there is in place at the moment? After all that is how you have a discussion and a debate and convince other people that they are wrong.
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