Why not war against Islam?

[Leumas]

911

How about:
Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Guatemala, Granada, etc. etc. and finally Iraq and Libya.


Since 2003 I have been wishing someone would take all the speeches of USA presidents prior to all the wars in the USA history and compare them to show how THE VERY SAME PROPAGANDA (LIES) has been used THROUGHOUT.

Well this video is EXACTLY what I have been wishing for.....finally someone has done it....it is GREAT. Listen to minutes 5:09 to 6:00

Also listen to how the Vietnam war was sold to the American public BASED ON A FABRICATED LIE where the President LIED to the public that the Vietnamese attacked an American ship......compare that to TODAY. (minutes 22:19 to 25:47)


Also listen VERY INTENTLY to the Martin Luther King's Speech at the end (minutes 1:08:03 to end)

BUT...the ENTIRE video is worth watching INTENTLY.

 

[Resume]

911

Jemmah Islamiyah.

 

[Resume]

How about:
Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Guatemala, Granada, etc. etc. and finally Iraq and Libya.


Since 2003 I have been wishing someone would take all the speeches of USA presidents prior to all the wars in the USA history and compare them to show how THE VERY SAME PROPAGANDA (LIES) has been used THROUGHOUT.

Well this video is EXACTLY what I have been wishing for.....finally someone has done it....it is GREAT. Listen to minutes 5:09 to 6:00

Also listen to how the Vietnam war was sold to the American public BASED ON A FABRICATED LIE where the President LIED to the public that the Vietnamese attacked an American ship......compare that to TODAY. (minutes 22:19 to 25:47)


Also listen VERY INTENTLY to the Martin Luther King's Speech at the end (minutes 1:08:03 to end)

BUT...the ENTIRE video is worth watching INTENTLY.

You're quoting a reply about violent Islam, not about alleged U.S. hegemony.

 

[DC]

Why not? Not politically correct?

At any rate, your strawman is a strawman. It was fundamental tenets of the religion that were being questioned, not a radical fringe element. A question was posed as to why so many Muslims do not seem to understand how the call to enslave the "kuffars" and rape their women tends to arouse something less than warm feelings among the kuffars.



Sure they will. But not by the resident Muslim apologists.

well i think it would be a good think for Moslems to create a Koran without those verses, but i am already happy when they do not literaly do what is written in there.
something like the NT for the Koran.
but in christianity it was done and some people still want their old testament.

 

[Ethnikos]

Also listen VERY INTENTLY to the Martin Luther King's Speech at the end (minutes 1:08:03 to end)

BUT...the ENTIRE video is worth watching INTENTLY.

This video is what got him killed, in my opinion.
He was too credible.
Same thing with John Lennon.

 

[tsig]

How about:
Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Guatemala, Granada, etc. etc. and finally Iraq and Libya.


Since 2003 I have been wishing someone would take all the speeches of USA presidents prior to all the wars in the USA history and compare them to show how THE VERY SAME PROPAGANDA (LIES) has been used THROUGHOUT.

Well this video is EXACTLY what I have been wishing for.....finally someone has done it....it is GREAT. Listen to minutes 5:09 to 6:00

Also listen to how the Vietnam war was sold to the American public BASED ON A FABRICATED LIE where the President LIED to the public that the Vietnamese attacked an American ship......compare that to TODAY. (minutes 22:19 to 25:47)


Also listen VERY INTENTLY to the Martin Luther King's Speech at the end (minutes 1:08:03 to end)

BUT...the ENTIRE video is worth watching INTENTLY.

What about them? America does wrong therefore terrorists are justified in killing thousands?

 

[USEagle13]

So you do not think that the Bible has the VERY SAME commandments to CONQUER….EXTERMINATE…..ENSLAVE……..




I think you need to read the Bible….Exodus, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Kings (I and II) Samuel (I and II)

Here are a few gems

Deuteronomy

{20:4} For the LORD your God [is] he that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you.


{20:10} When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.
{20:11} And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, [that] all the people [that is] found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.
{20:12} And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:
{20:13} And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
{20:14} But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, [even] all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
{20:15} Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities [which are] very far off from thee, which [are] not of the cities of these nations. {20:16} But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee [for] an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: {20:17} But thou shalt utterly destroy them; [namely,] the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded
thee:
{20:18} That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.
{20:19} When thou shalt besiege a city a long time, in making war against it to take it, thou shalt not destroy the trees thereof by forcing an axe against them: for thou mayest eat of them, and thou shalt not cut them down (for the tree of the field [is] man’s [life]) to employ [them] in the siege:
{20:20} Only the trees which thou knowest that they [be] not trees for meat, thou shalt destroy and cut them down; and thou shalt build bulwarks against the city that maketh war with thee, until it be subdued.
​

Joshua

{1:1} Now after the death of Moses the servant of the LORD it came to pass, that the LORD spake unto Joshua the son of Nun, Moses’ minister, saying,
{1:2} Moses my servant is dead; now therefore arise, go over this Jordan, thou, and all this people, unto the land which I do give to them, [even] to the children of Israel.
{1:3} Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, that have I given unto you, as I said unto Moses.
{1:4} From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast.
{1:5} There shall not any man be able to stand before thee all the days of thy life: as I was with Moses, [so] I will be with thee: I will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.
{1:6} Be strong and of a good courage: for unto this people shalt thou divide for an inheritance the land, which I sware unto their fathers to give them.

{8:1} And the LORD said unto Joshua, Fear not, neither be thou dismayed: take all the people of war with thee, and arise, go up to Ai: see, I have given into thy hand the king of Ai, and his people, and his city, and his land:
{8:2} And thou shalt do to Ai and her king as thou didst unto Jericho and her king: only the spoil thereof, and the cattle thereof, shall ye take for a prey unto yourselves: lay thee an ambush for the city behind it.

{11:15} As the LORD commanded Moses his servant, so did Moses command Joshua, and so did Joshua; he left nothing undone of all that the LORD commanded Moses.
{11:16} So Joshua took all that land, the hills, and all the south country, and all the land of Goshen, and the valley, and the plain, and the mountain of Israel, and the valley of the same;
{11:17} [Even] from the mount Halak, that goeth up to Seir, even unto Baal-gad in the valley of Lebanon under mount Hermon: and all their kings he took, and smote them, and slew them.
{11:18} Joshua made war a long time with all those kings.
{11:19} There was not a city that made peace with the children of Israel, save the Hivites the inhabitants of Gibeon: all [other] they took in battle.
{11:20} For it was of the LORD to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that he might destroy them utterly, [and] that they might have no favour, but that he might destroy them, as the LORD commanded Moses.

​

Oh look Old Testament history book stuff. All those old cultures and people that where destroyed had all kinds of wicked things they did such as burning their kids alive in fires, enslaving other people around them, etc.

If they had survived so would have all their rituals and we would have a culture based upon burning kids alive to make it rain etc.

Also, what the heck you think is kinda going on right now in the world with these Non Religous wars? It is basically war in order to have control of mass amounts of people and land. Leaders don't just lead, they control people through laws and rules.

Ah….but not long ago they were acting on it all over the world….e.g. America North, America South, Asia, Africa, Middle East, Europe.

There were HOLY WARS of extirpation, rapine…. Not just against heathens and infidels….but against so called HERETICS because they interpreted the very same bible in a slightly different way…..STUDY HISTORY….. 30 years war, 100 years war, inquisitions, crusades, conquistadores, Ireland, Scotland, Cathars, Huguenots, etc. etc.

Given half a chance they would be at it again…..ala Palin et al at Fox News.]

Are you blind!. There are wars going on right now as we speak. They are not religous wars by no means but the end game is the same. Control of people, land, and resources. That is the goal of any OFFENSIVE war.

Heck even defensive war. Only thing that is different in defensive war is one is trying to maintain control.

I think you need to read the Bible….Exodus, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Kings (I and II) Samuel (I and II)

Here are a few gems

Deuteronomy

{20:4} For the LORD your God [is] he that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you.


{20:10} When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.
{20:11} And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, [that] all the people [that is] found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.
{20:12} And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:
{20:13} And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
{20:14} But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, [even] all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
{20:15} Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities [which are] very far off from thee, which [are] not of the cities of these nations. {20:16} But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee [for] an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: {20:17} But thou shalt utterly destroy them; [namely,] the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded
thee:
{20:18} That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.
{20:19} When thou shalt besiege a city a long time, in making war against it to take it, thou shalt not destroy the trees thereof by forcing an axe against them: for thou mayest eat of them, and thou shalt not cut them down (for the tree of the field [is] man’s [life]) to employ [them] in the siege:
{20:20} Only the trees which thou knowest that they [be] not trees for meat, thou shalt destroy and cut them down; and thou shalt build bulwarks against the city that maketh war with thee, until it be subdued.
​

Joshua

{1:1} Now after the death of Moses the servant of the LORD it came to pass, that the LORD spake unto Joshua the son of Nun, Moses’ minister, saying,
{1:2} Moses my servant is dead; now therefore arise, go over this Jordan, thou, and all this people, unto the land which I do give to them, [even] to the children of Israel.
{1:3} Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, that have I given unto you, as I said unto Moses.
{1:4} From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast.
{1:5} There shall not any man be able to stand before thee all the days of thy life: as I was with Moses, [so] I will be with thee: I will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.
{1:6} Be strong and of a good courage: for unto this people shalt thou divide for an inheritance the land, which I sware unto their fathers to give them.

{8:1} And the LORD said unto Joshua, Fear not, neither be thou dismayed: take all the people of war with thee, and arise, go up to Ai: see, I have given into thy hand the king of Ai, and his people, and his city, and his land:
{8:2} And thou shalt do to Ai and her king as thou didst unto Jericho and her king: only the spoil thereof, and the cattle thereof, shall ye take for a prey unto yourselves: lay thee an ambush for the city behind it.

{11:15} As the LORD commanded Moses his servant, so did Moses command Joshua, and so did Joshua; he left nothing undone of all that the LORD commanded Moses.
{11:16} So Joshua took all that land, the hills, and all the south country, and all the land of Goshen, and the valley, and the plain, and the mountain of Israel, and the valley of the same;
{11:17} [Even] from the mount Halak, that goeth up to Seir, even unto Baal-gad in the valley of Lebanon under mount Hermon: and all their kings he took, and smote them, and slew them.
{11:18} Joshua made war a long time with all those kings.
{11:19} There was not a city that made peace with the children of Israel, save the Hivites the inhabitants of Gibeon: all [other] they took in battle.
{11:20} For it was of the LORD to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that he might destroy them utterly, [and] that they might have no favour, but that he might destroy them, as the LORD commanded Moses.

​

Oh look Old Testament history book stuff. All those old cultures and people that where destroyed had all kinds of wicked things they did such as burning their kids alive in fires, enslaving other people around them, etc.

If they had survived so would have all their rituals and we would have a culture based upon burning kids alive to make it rain etc.

Also, what the heck you think is kinda going on right now in the world with these Non Religous wars? It is basically war in order to have control of mass amounts of people and land. Leaders don't just lead, they control people through laws and rules.

And pray tell what is the aim of Christianity? What exactly is the book of Revelation about?

Pray tell what is the Jewish Messiah all about…..not the Christian distortion….the proper Jewish one whose FIRST COMING the Jews are still waiting for?

It's when God reveals himself to the World. Hence the name Revelation.

Have you heard Sarah Palin recently….have you heard Fox News recently….. do you know history? How many Christians today are TORMENTING gays by denying them CIVIL RIGHTS….how many Christians in the past have ADVOCATED SLAVERY….how many in the past have stood by while innocent women and men BURNT ON THE STAKE…..

How many Christians

You act as if aetheists never had slaves or advocated it. Oh my goodness LOL.

Hmmmm...women are being burnt on the New Age stake called BOMBS but I don't see and of the Rightous aethiests doing a darn thing about it. Also some Christians did try to stop those things but were called heretics and burnt right along with them.

Also, that was during a time period where the majority of ppl could not read and only the clergy. So they were "told" that the Bible advocated certain things etc. such as indulgencies for example. It was just the establishment was using something that was good for evil purposes and deeds. Since everyone was so dumb then it was an easy way to control them.

I think your user name tells it all….. ARMAGEDDON…..isn’t that the HOPE and DREAM of all fundamentalist Christians? What is Armageddon…. A love fest?

Well...if you ever studied the end time prophecies of the king of the north and the king of the south it is simple, it has begun and this is the begining. No going back for anyone now:

King of the North countries:
Germany, Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Qatar

King of the South Countries:
Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Egypt, Libya, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djibouti

Or is it the hope for the ANNIHILATION of the WORLD and especially the Jews and the Middle East so as to bring back Jesus? Why can’t Jesus Come back before WARS and DESTRUCTION….why can’t he come back TO PREVENT the wars BEFORE they happen and declare PEACE himself instead of waiting for the DEVIL to unite the world in peace.

Because he doesn't play by your rules. He IS the rules. He came once and was killed by humans already to abolish the rule of animal sacrifices for forgiveness because man started to kill animals for fun in the Coliseums and stuff so the meaning of it was lost by man's lust for bloodshed. You didn't know this!?

If the Bible is anything to go by, and if the past is any guide, and if the rhetoric of the likes of Palin et al are any indication then neither Judaism nor Christianity are any better than Islam…. All three religions are called the Abrahamic religions and thus are all three the most ABHORRENT FRAUD ever perpetrated on humanity.

Ummm no. That is how mankind established the moral value system that we have now wether you like it or not. Otherwise we would be burning kids to make it rain or carving out the heart of a live sacrifice so the giant lizard man doesn't come down from the sky to eat everyone, etc.

Abraham was nothing but a cowardly pimp who became rich by pimping his sister/wife TWICE, yet he is the holiest of holies to all three religions…..I think that explains the VITIATION that these three religions have subjected humanity to in the last 2500 years…… Buddha help us!!

I dunno dude. I have never heard any of the Christian religions call him the holiest of holies. I believe you are twisting facts and making assumptions.

 

[I Ratant]

Try here:

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f18/

Anyway, as I said, the point I was trying to make was NOT to promote war against Islam but exploring the midset some Muslims seem to have in regards to their perceptions in that regard.

.
Engaging any religionist in a rational debate about the sources of their belief is about the only sane way to discuss the problems.
Wholesale murder isn't.
Discussing the problems with all religions should show the reasonable person the lack of actual foundations he/she has pinned their mindset to.
Otherwise, if attacked, a vigorous over-the-top defense.

 

[Leumas]

You're quoting a reply about violent Islam, not about alleged U.S. hegemony.

Yes.... but who trained, funded, assisted and ARMED those groups in the first place? Remember Iran Contra.... Remember Jihadists in 1981 Afghanistan.

When the morons were killing Russians and Liberal Afghanis (they allowed women in parliament and to walk around in pants) we were arming them and training them and sent Osama to fund them. We also called them FREEDOM FIGHTERS.


Now we call them Dangerous Islamists.....but who ENABLED them? If we let the Russians crush them we won't have had 911.


So when you mention 911.... it is like walking in a room and seeing a guy punch another and concluding that the AGGRESSOR is the guy you SAW land the punch. But in fact if you considered the HISTORY of the matter you would perhaps have seen the man being punched initially raping the punching man's daughter....for example.

I think you need to consider HISTORY since most likely that might have a bearing on the matter.

 

[tsig]

Jemmah Islamiyah.

I see:

Jemaah Islamiah [1] (Arabic: الجماعة الإسلامية‎, al-Jamāʿat ul-Islāmíyatu, meaning "Islamic Congregation", frequently abbreviated JI),[2] is a Southeast Asian militant Islamic organization dedicated to the establishment of a Daulah Islamiyah[3] (regional Islamic caliphate) in Southeast Asia incorporating Indonesia, Malaysia, the southern Philippines, Singapore and Brunei.[4] JI was added to the United Nations 1267 Committee's list of terrorist organizations linked to al-Qaeda or the Taliban on 25 October 2002[5] under UN Security Council Resolution 1267.

They probably just misunderstood a verse or so, I'm sure the Islamophile posters here will set them straight about the Religion of Peace.

 

[Leumas]

Oh look Old Testament history book stuff. All those old cultures and people that where destroyed had all kinds of wicked things they did such as burning their kids alive in fires, enslaving other people around them, etc.

If they had survived so would have all their rituals and we would have a culture based upon burning kids alive to make it rain etc.

Oh...no... you de'int!


Do you realize what you have just said?

You have said that GENOCIDE and EXTERMINATION of entire races and people is just fine by you!

Your justification......they were "WICKED" according to the standard of JESUS!


So we now get the TRUTH right out of the Armageddon Lover's mouth


Heil Jesus!

 

[I Ratant]

Emphasizing the "peace" part should be the thrust of any arguments to dismantle any religion.
Indicating that the war ideas are merely those of crazy old men seeking power, and out of step entirely with the idea that an all-powerful deity would be incapable of handling any dissent on its own, either in this (real) life or any imaginary afterlife... leave the mass killings to it.
Tolerate those that don't think the same way as you do, just expect/enforce the same toleration from them towards you.
It'll all come together when the roll is called up yonder.

 

[tsig]

Oh...no... you de'int!


Do you realize what you have just said?

You have said that GENOCIDE and EXTERMINATION of entire races and people is just fine by you!

Your justification......they were "WICKED" according to the standard of JESUS!


So we now get the TRUTH right out of the Armageddon Lover's mouth


Heil Jesus!

The OP wasn't about Christianity so you might want to quit bashing on about it.

 

[USEagle13]

well i think it would be a good think for Moslems to create a Koran without those verses, but i am already happy when they do not literaly do what is written in there.
something like the NT for the Koran.
but in christianity it was done and some people still want their old testament.

See that is the thing bro. Most westerners don't know jack squat about the Koran. It IS divided into 2 parts (I fergot what they called em)

The older verses (their version of the Christians Old Testament) has all the love, peace, nice gushy stuff that is poetic sounding, and their version of the New Testament has all the straight forward Jihadic lingo about killing infidels.

Just like Christianity they go by the New Testament part and see the Old part as more of a Historical record type thing.

Also in case you did not know this....Islam was started much later than Christianity and Muhammed (who was illiterate) had heard the tales of Christianity because it was being preached in his time period. All he did was reverse everything, used it as a means of CONTROL and marched straight to Mecca slaying all other people around that were practicing over 10 religions there at that time in that one place of worship.

They destroyed all the things they considered Idols but left one thing. That black piece of meteroite that no one at the time was worshipping (it was actually a decoration) and used it as symbol to do rituals with.

And despite whether you believe Jesus is the Son of God or not....he was a real human being that lived during the times of the Romans and was documented as an actual person by the Romans who was actually crusified for saying he was the Son of God and was actually chosen to die over another person (They chose to pick one or the other)

The only real dispute was if the cross was actually a T shape or not because back then they crucified ppl either with a cross or a single stake.

Also the muslims believe in endtimes Muhammed comes back with Jesus and his mother Mary and they believe Jesus was a prophet and that his mom DID have a virgin birth (immaculate conception)

The Jews claim 2 things (depends on what kind of Jew there are different Jewish denominations too)...
1.Jesus never was a real person (goes against Roman records)
2.Mary was a prostitue raped by a Roman centurion

Also, the Muslims used prayer beads way before the Catholics did. Catholics copied that from Muslims. So a Muslim will kiss a set of Catholic prayer beads when a Catholic person goes around witnessing. They just take off the cross (denying Christ) and the Muslim will kiss the picture of Mary.

 

[USEagle13]

Oh...no... you de'int!


Do you realize what you have just said?

You have said that GENOCIDE and EXTERMINATION of entire races and people is just fine by you!

Your justification......they were "WICKED" according to the standard of JESUS!


So we now get the TRUTH right out of the Armageddon Lover's mouth


Heil Jesus!

Those times were way different than today. You cannot compare something that happened 2,000 or 3,000 yrs ago to the way ppl live today. So you condone burning little kids while they are alive to make it rain? (answer my question)

 

[USEagle13]

The OP wasn't about Christianity so you might want to quit bashing on about it.

It's the true colors of Christophobia showing through. That is what repeated indoctination and brainwashing of mainstream Aethiesm does to the mind of the weak individual who cannot implement it properly.

They lose sense of time and because most do not know anything about cultural anthropolgy; they do not know anything about the civilizations of the past Middle East area.

they act as if the Hitites and Caananites and all the other past warring Natufian style civilzations were some kind of peaceful civilizations that were warred against without cause. Those civilizations were some of the worst highly aggressive take no prisoner style civilizations that ever lived. They fought with everyone.

They drop all skeptical thinking and turn into bigots from a different spectrum and in effect just lower themselves to the bigots of the opposite spectrum. basically, it makes them no better.

 

[DC]

See that is the thing bro. Most westerners don't know jack squat about the Koran. It IS divided into 2 parts (I fergot what they called em)

The older verses (their version of the Christians Old Testament) has all the love, peace, nice gushy stuff that is poetic sounding, and their version of the New Testament has all the straight forward Jihadic lingo about killing infidels.

Just like Christianity they go by the New Testament part and see the Old part as more of a Historical record type thing.

Also in case you did not know this....Islam was started much later than Christianity and Muhammed (who was illiterate) had heard the tales of Christianity because it was being preached in his time period. All he did was reverse everything, used it as a means of CONTROL and marched straight to Mecca slaying all other people around that were practicing over 10 religions there at that time in that one place of worship.

They destroyed all the things they considered Idols but left one thing. That black piece of meteroite that no one at the time was worshipping (it was actually a decoration) and used it as symbol to do rituals with.

And despite whether you believe Jesus is the Son of God or not....he was a real human being that lived during the times of the Romans and was documented as an actual person by the Romans who was actually crusified for saying he was the Son of God and was actually chosen to die over another person (They chose to pick one or the other)

The only real dispute was if the cross was actually a T shape or not because back then they crucified ppl either with a cross or a single stake.

Also the muslims believe in endtimes Muhammed comes back with Jesus and his mother Mary and they believe Jesus was a prophet and that his mom DID have a virgin birth (immaculate conception)

The Jews claim 2 things (depends on what kind of Jew there are different Jewish denominations too)...
1.Jesus never was a real person (goes against Roman records)
2.Mary was a prostitue raped by a Roman centurion

Also, the Muslims used prayer beads way before the Catholics did. Catholics copied that from Muslims. So a Muslim will kiss a set of Catholic prayer beads when a Catholic person goes around witnessing. They just take off the cross (denying Christ) and the Muslim will kiss the picture of Mary.

How long have you studied the Koran?

 

[Leumas]

Adept LIARS

If they had survived so would have all their rituals and we would have a culture based upon burning kids alive to make it rain etc.

Those times were way different than today. You cannot compare something that happened 2,000 or 3,000 yrs ago to the way ppl live today. So you condone burning little kids while they are alive to make it rain? (answer my question)

It seems Christian fundamentalists are ADEPT at accusing people they want to extirpate, of ritualistic killings of babies:

See the full text

Blood libel (also blood accusation) is a false accusation or claim that religious minorities, usually Jews, murder children to use their blood in certain aspects of their religious rituals and holidays. Historically, these claims—alongside those of well poisoning and host desecration—have been a major theme in European persecution of Jews.

 

[Ethnikos]

they act as if the Hitites and Caananites and all the other past warring Natufian style civilzations were some kind of peaceful civilizations that were warred against without cause. Those civilizations were some of the worst highly aggressive take no prisoner style civilizations that ever lived. They fought with everyone.

How are they different from us?

 

[Resume]

It's the true colors of Christophobia showing through. That is what repeated indoctination and brainwashing of mainstream Aethiesm does to the mind of the weak individual who cannot implement it properly.

You sure about that? No such thing as christophobia, islamophobia, fsmophobia. Fairy tales are fairy tales.