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Why is homosexuality wrong?

Darat said:
You should really go and learn about the history of a word before you make such a pronouncement. The evolution of the use of the word gay is quite fascinating. The word "gay" did not just mean a "happy" person or event, it also had other shades of meanings. In a nutshell the term became to be used to refer to homosexuals not because of its meaning of "happy" but its other meaning of carefree, uninhibited and pleasure seeking. So in fact when it first began to be used to describe male homosexuals it was being used in a comparatively negative manner.
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William Butler Yeats wrote a poem, "Lapis Lazuli", that has been one of my favorites for years.

In one sense, the poem is about the many meanings of 'gay' at the time.

Enjoy! http://www.web-books.com/classics/poetry/anthology/Yeats/Lapis.htm
 
XenonII said:
"The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person".

The facts about the homosexual's miserable lifestyle speak for themselves and are shocking. Homos are more prone to alcohol and drug abuse, domestic violence, suicide, depression and other psychiatric disorders.
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Could it be that the reason (some) homosexuals are depressed, alcoholic or suicidal is because of the way that society treats them and alienates them. Try living their lifestyle and see how happy you are.
XenonII said:
Now homosexual activists after corrupting the meaning of the word gay, are trying to radically redefine marriage. Marriage is a word that descrbes a union of man and woman. Saying anything more on that is like trying to change history. The issue is not about what homosexed "couples" do amongst themselves. It is about the descriptor of recognition being twisted into something to suit those for which it was not, is not and should never be intended to describe.

Marriage is a priveledge and not a right. No one is denying homosexuals the priveledge of marriage. A homosexual man can marry a woman just as a heterosexual man can and a "lesbian" can marry a man just like a heterosexual woman is able to. What homosexuals are seeking is a special right. Homosexuality is a choice and science does not support their claim that they are born that way. These people define themselves based on their sexual behavior and they should not be granted special rights because of it.
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They are not seeking a "special right," but only the same right as all the rest of us, that of choosing anyone we want to marry, provided they are of legal age to decide. Certainly homosexuals can marry anyone of the opposite sex. But they cannot marry anyone of their choosing. By definition, the only people they would want to be married to are those of the opposite sex. So by denying them that right, a right which all of the rest of us take for granted, you are de facto denying them their right to marry whomever they choose. They can choose someone out of the specific group that you say they can choose from, even though there is nobody in that group that they could possibly want to marry.

We are talking about one of the most fundamental and personal decisions we ever make in our lives, that of whom we will choose to share our life with, to share the good and the bad, to share hopes and joys and dreams and sorrows with, to care for each other in sickness and old age, to work together toward shared goals, both emotional and financial. I would not want anybody telling me that I could only choose from a select group of people, none of whom I would want to choose.

The bottom line is: I have yet to have anyone give me a rational explanation for why homosexuality is wrong that doesn't involve religion. Because there is no rational human reason why people shouldn't be allowed to be with whomever they want to be with. The only reason is because someone's invisible friend doesn't like it. And we base our laws on this! And ruin people's lives because of it! Unbelievable!
 
Going fifty years back in time:

Marriage is a priveledge and not a right. No one is denying Africans the priveledge of marriage. A Negro man can marry a Negro woman just like a white man can marry a white woman. What inter-racial people are seeking is a special right. Unnatural love for other races is a choice and science does not support their claim that they are born that way. These people define themselves based on their sexual behavior and they should not be granted special rights because of it.

Oh, and if we let the blacks marry whites, where do we stop? Eventually we'll have gays trying to marry each others! Abolish inter-racial marriage! And while we're at it, most people dislike black rights (think 'democracy'), and the only reason we're giving them rights is they're protesting like little children! Look:
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Oh, and how do you define 'special rights'? You're making it sound as if they're seeking rights the rest of us aren't getting, which is simply not the case. It's a new right to us modern people, sure, but that doesn't make it 'special treatment'.
 
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Ladewig said:
You're silly.
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I'd rather be "silly" than burn in hell for all eternity. Liberalism is a mental disorder, much like same-sex attraction so no wonder liberals defend acting on it.
 
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Lonewulf said:
Would this be before or after he sends me to hell for all of eternity, to burn in horrible agony until the end of eternity (which means forever, essentially), because I don't do whatever He says?

Most of my friends are hardly that spiteful, hateful, twisted, or immoral.


Then why did he make homosexuality and general "kinkiness" seemingly genetic-influenced?


A wonderful life of throwing stones at people that don't agree with me. Yeeeeeeah, don't think so.


"The best friend I could possibly have" doesn't usually mesh with, "Hates people that have sex with certain people, and thus will torture them for all eternity".
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The individual chooses whether they go to hell or not, God through his amazing grace just grants them their wish. If you choose to deny Christ, to spit in his face, to follow the prince of darkness and seperarte yourself from God through sin, then that is exactly what you will get - seperation from his Holyness for all eternity in hell. God doesn't force anyone to follow him but you have to make a choice, be a Christian and go to heaven or live a depraved (liberal) lifestyle inspired by the devil himself and face the consquences of your actions. It's your choice that God freely allows you to make.

Homosexuality is not genetically infleunced and no scientific studies support such a contention. Homosexuality is an immoral lifestyle choice freely chosen by the individual. No one has to be "gay" it is an identity they adopt for whatever reason. Many of them are posessed by demons and give into their disorded desires rather than finding Jesus who can set them free and make them whole in Christ. Homosexuality is nothing more than a behavior and an immoral one at that.

Liberals hate true morality. Rather than follow God's plan for humanity, they make up their own rules as they go along which fall far short of God's. They define for themselves what is moral and what is not. They make man God, by refusing to follow God they follow satan and in doing so all sorts of depravity is legitimised in their corrupted minds such as homosodomy and the murder of unborn babies. Murdering the unborn is not a civil right!
 
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joobz said:
You hold to a heretical view. You are sexually immoral and will not be allowed into heaven.
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I'm not a Godless liberal. You have described the average democrat however pretty much spot on!
 
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XenonII said:
The individual chooses whether they go to hell or not, God just grants them their wish. If you choose to deny Christ, to spit in his face, to follow the prince of darkness and seperarte yourself from God through sin, then that is exactly what you will get - seperation from his Holyness for all eternity in hell. God doesn't force anyone to follow him but you have to make a choice, be a Christian and go to heaven or live a depraved liberal lifestyle inspired by the devil himself and face the consquences of your actions. It's your choice that God freely let's you make.
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So if you have never heard of this bible thing, you are doomed to an eternity for a choice you couldn't possibly make. What a jerk you believe in.

Oh and you may want to catch up on some reading.

http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html
 
Hokulele said:
Please provide proof of this.
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The proof is in their words and actions. "You will know them by their fruits" - Matthew 7:20 (and there are plenty of "fruits" amongst the liberal crowd). :D
 
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Jimbo07 said:
I hope so...

I'm seriously hoping that you're not advocating violence here...
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No of course not, just demonstrating what the traditional punishment sanctioned by God was for unruly children.
 
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Gord_in_Toronto said:
XenonII, surely all of what you claim is moot anyway for did not Jesus Himself say "And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall be saved"? (John 11:26) If I believe, then I can do anything I want -- in particular ignore the demands of the Old Testament (that Jesus was rather in two minds about anyway).

I believe, therefore I am saved.

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Sir, I believe you have taken that verse out of context. Jesus is saying that those that believe in what he stands for and live accordingly shall be saved and Jesus was no liberal. He upheld the Bible, he believed in it and he was the author of it, being God in the flesh.
 
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Lonewulf said:
Doesn't that technically make Satan "saved"? Satan believes that God and Jesus existed, to say the least.
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It's more than just believing He exists (God and Jesus being the same individual briefly splitting into two seperate, but connected through the Holy Spirit, beings during Jesus' time on Earth), it's believing what He stands for and living accordingly.

Satan is not saved technically or otherwise, Satan is DOOMED! After the thousand years of imprisonment, Satan will be released for a short while. During his parole, he will again unite some of the nations and take them to war against God's people (sounds a bit like Osama bin Laden doesn't it?!). But this rebellion will be summarily ended when God sends fire out of heaven to destroy them. Because he is spirit and cannot die, the Devil will then be sentenced to eternal torment in the Lake of Fire. Finally, God and man will be rid of their chief enemy, and peace will flourish for all eternity! - Revelation 20:7-10.
 
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XenonII said:
I'm not a Godless liberal. You have described the average democrat however pretty much spot on!
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Jesus wandered on foot from town to town extolling the virtues of giving money to the poor (aka welfare) while healing the sick for free (socialized healthcare). At the same time, he was stating that it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Sorry, Jesus was a liberal. Therefore you're views are amoral and heretical.
 
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