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Why is homosexuality wrong?

My opinion (and this is part of a greater theoretical examination of social behavior, if anyone is interested) is that the single greatest cause of homophobia is:

Society conditions us to think that competition is a prime goal -> homosexuals no longer compete in the mating game -> homophobes realize that they can no longer compete with homosexuals in this respect -> homophobes become frightened at the possibility that they can no longer (effectively) dominate (some) others in this way.

I liken homophobia to the frustration neighborhood boys get when the new guy doesn't want to play football with them -- it is one way they can dominate him and when he refuses to even play the game it frightens them, causing them to lash out.
 
My claim, based on no biblical or historical scholarship, is that it was used as a way to draw "us" vs. "them" distinctions against a rival religious or social group of the time. I think religious proscriptions become entrenched because they offer a survival advantage or because they help strengthen social groups. It's unlikely that homosexuality is disadvantageous to survival, so I think it became part of the God of Abraham religion for social group reasons.

And....what Cello Man said, except substitute Halle Berry.

Linda
 
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Terry said:
Nothing at all. Never the less, I stand by my statement, since the act that I think is being referred to shouldn't hurt.
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Depends on size, experience, and position would be my "guess."
 
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The question "Why is homosexuality wrong?" is a loaded question.

Have you stopped beating your mother yet? is also a loaded question.

Religious delusions are what is wrong with this planet. Homosexuality is natural since it occurs in nature.
 
That's just semantics. The same question could be rephrased as "Is homosexuality wrong?"

Perhaps a more interesting question is "Why is homosexuality perceived as wrong?"

But the answer remains the same. Homosexuality is not wrong. And it's perfectly natural, as you point out.

The answer to the second question is easy too -- ignorance.
 
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Greatest I am said:
All of God’s laws are responses to a victim of some sort.


In the case of homosexuals there does not appear to be a victim or anyone hurt by the actions of the participant.
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The Falwells and the Swaggarts would say the answer is that these sinners are harming themselves by separating themselves from God's wonderful love. Of course, those folks are sanctimonious a-holes who should be ignored.
 
In My Spare Time said:
If the punishment for homosexuality is in the "eye for an eye" style like those others, does that mean that as punishment for sex I receive sex?

Maybe there is something to this religion thing.
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Just to facilitate that, we'll stick you in jail with a bunch of other people of your own gender ....

Charlie (taking a wide stance on this issue) Monoxide
 
I agree that homosexually isn't wrong. And I know that it does occur in nature, other mammals do it. But does that make it a natural behavior for humans? If there weren't any taboos of any kind, do you think most people would engage in it? Would you? Because I know there are gay people who only sleep with the same sex and vice versa.
 
darnell11 said:
But does that make it a natural behavior for humans?
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Homosexuality is natural for humans that are homosexual.

Most humans are not homosexual, many, or perhaps most of them think having gay sex is icky. I respect the rights of people that do not wish to have gay sex to refrain from having gay sex.
 
darnell11 said:
I agree that homosexually isn't wrong. And I know that it does occur in nature, other mammals do it. But does that make it a natural behavior for humans? If there weren't any taboos of any kind, do you think most people would engage in it? Would you? Because I know there are gay people who only sleep with the same sex and vice versa.
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Is having red hair natural for humans?
 
Professor Yaffle said:
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Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." ​

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them" ​

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God." ​

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper." ​
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The Septuagint translation of Leviticus 20:13 uses the words "meta arsenos koithn" to describe a man lying with a man in the bad way. The word "arsenokoitai" in 1 Corinthians is probably a Pauline neologism from this translation. This would make "malakoi" and "arsenokoitai" Paul's idiosyncratic way of condemning the generally acceptable ways of practicing homosexuality in the Roman world. He's holding both parties accountable. That's my view, and others may differ with good reason.

The Romans passage is a really interesting look into Paul's mind. Paul describes the women as exchanging a natural act for an unnatural one, and then describes the men as exchanging women for men. In other words, women turn men gay by giving up da badonkadonk. This makes this verse a rather foul midrash on the story of initial temptation from Genesis. Paul is trying to be as gross as possible here to underline how sinful the world is, and his going straight for euphemisms for anal sex shows the kind of audience he was going for. Personally, I also see this as a little more evidence that Paul's misogyny sprung from living so far back into the closet that he was passing mothballs, but that's really just my opinion.

I really do think the Bible condemns homosexuality quite openly and unequivocably. I also think the Bible is wrong, wrong, wrong on this and many other matters.
 
Gurdur said:
I don't remember claiming it made sense.

I describe history, I don't prescribe it. If it was all up to me, a huge amount of things would have run differently.
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I am not sure why you gave such weight to the social consensus.
 
darnell11 said:
I agree that homosexually isn't wrong. And I know that it does occur in nature, other mammals do it. But does that make it a natural behavior for humans? If there weren't any taboos of any kind, do you think most people would engage in it? Would you? Because I know there are gay people who only sleep with the same sex and vice versa.
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Why does a behavior need to be predominant to be natural?
 
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