Why is homosexuality wrong?

[Achán hiNidráne]

73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization.

Your source?

The acceptance and promotion of so-called "alternative lifestyles" like homosexuality will only lead to its destruction like has already been witnessed in past civilizations.

Evidence?

Homosexuality is a demonic spirit that exists in perverted people who like to have sex with the same sex.

Care to cite the peer reviwed, scientifically tested, evidence to back up that claim?

According to USA Today, the average homosexual has 50 different partners a year. Forty-three percent of white male homosexuals claim to have had 500 different sex partners. Twenty-eight percent claim more than 1000!

What issue? What article?

The average lifespan of a homosexual is 41 years old. Now compare that with the heterosexual whose lifespan is 74. The homosexual community is 5000 times more likely to get AIDS.

Your sources?

 

[Achán hiNidráne]

God said...

Tell me, why the f--k should we or anyone else give a damn what your capricious, murderous, bigoted, celestial tyrant has to say about ANYTHING?

That is, if he actually existed, of course...

 

[XenonII]

Jesus wandered on foot from town to town extolling the virtues of giving money to the poor (aka welfare) while healing the sick for free (socialized healthcare). At the same time, he was stating that it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Sorry, Jesus was a liberal. Therefore you're views are amoral and heretical.

Jesus wasn't a liberal he was a conseravtive. He never said "and we will make it so those who work hard will reap no reward and those who are lazy must only reproduce and they may collect welfare". Being a liberal means everything Jesus opposed. A liberal is totally in favor of killing babies moments before they are born. A liberal wants acceptance and favortism for men who live in sexual perversion with other men and women who live in sexual perversion with other women.

America was founded by white Christian conservative males, the one group the liberal hates with a vengeance. They did an incredible job, as led by the hand of God in giving us the greatest country on earth.

Jesus would certainly oppose this satanic demand for so-called same-sex "marriage". When God created Adam and Eve (not Adam and Steve) he made this statement found in Genesis 2:24: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."

 

[articulett]

Jesus opposes the wealthy repeatedly. Jesus had long hair. Jesus was sexist. Jesus wasn't divine. Jesus may not have existed. The story of Jesus doesn't make sense. Just because you believe the invisible creator of the universe doesn't want people to do certain things that you and your gurus have cherry picked from a primitive text that you believe contains wisdom--doesn't make it so.

There were no Adam and Eve or talking snakes-- humans cannot spring into being as fully formed adults--you need a childhood and memory and language to be an adult and understand what invisible entities are telling you...and you need an education to understand that invisible entities talking to you is a sign of schizophrenia, not the creator of the universe. There have been millions of creation stories because humans are story tellers and they trust people in authority and don't like uncertainty and like to feel part of something special. But science doesn't find evidence that any of them are true. We do find evidence that they can be mentally damaging. http://www-old.bmc.uu.se/~danl/Gerin Oil.html

But of course, your brain as been shielded from letting logic in. Hey, have you met "tokenconservative" and "DOC"-- you make a nice trio of arrogance and ignorance-- perhaps you should start your own forum except each of you are certain of your own rightness, and I suspect your egos are too big to allow the others into your delusions of grandeur.

 

[XenonII]

Is it true that most of the most virulent anti-homesexuals are actually closet gays themselves? When was the last time you had a homosexual thought, XenonII?

No it is not true. Do people oppose pedophilia because they are actually closet pedophiles themselves or do they oppose it because it is harmful and immoral? What about murderers and terrorists? Do people oppose them because they are closet murderers or terrorists or because what these people do is evil?

I would say that people oppose homosexuality for the reason they oppose anything else that isn't right, not because they engage in the immoral behavior themselves but because they know that it is wrong.

 

[Taffer]

Jesus wasn't a liberal he was a conseravtive. He never said "and we will make it so those who work hard will reap no reward and those who are lazy must only reproduce and they may collect welfare".

Strawman.

Being a liberal means everything Jesus opposed. A liberal is totally in favor of killing babies moments before they are born. A liberal wants acceptance and favortism for men who live in sexual perversion with other men and women who live in sexual perversion with other women.

Strawman.

America was founded by white Christian conservative males, the one group the liberal hates with a vengeance. They did an incredible job, as led by the hand of God in giving us the greatest country on earth.

Seperation of church and state?

Jesus would certainly oppose this satanic demand for so-called same-sex "marriage". When God created Adam and Eve (not Adam and Steve) he made this statement found in Genesis 2:24: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."

So?

 

[Taffer]

I would say that people oppose homosexuality for the reason they oppose anything else that isn't right, not because they engage in the immoral behavior themselves but because they know that it is wrong.

Except you cannot show why it is wrong. Way to fail, mate.

 

[XenonII]

Yup. I'm heterosexual because I freely chose it. One day I just decided that I'd go through life preferring to have sex with women. A purely rational choice on my part.

I also decided that I'd have brown hair and blue eyes. And that I'd be right handed. These I chose at the age of 9.

When I was 10, I decided that I'd forgo acne, and try autism instead.

Of course, I reserve the right to change my mind. Next week I might want to have sex with men, and be left handed and blond. It's purely by choice, after all.

You choose your sexual behavior, which is what defines whether you are normal or a homosexual, but you don't choose your eye or hair color, those things you are born with. You aren't born having sex. A homosexual male isn't born with a penis in his mouth or anus and a "lesbian" isn't born with a strap-on already attached. It amazes me liberals can't differentiate between freely chosen sexual behavior and traits you are born with such as eye and hair color. Eye and hair color are genetic, homosexuality isn't. Homosexuality is a choice.

 

[Hokulele]

People aren't born believing in god either.

 

[XenonII]

The word "phobia" (in non medical terms) simply refers to a strong or irrational fear or dislike or something, the word abomination has three main meanings, usually given as something that you find horrible, something you find shameful or an intense dislike.

So unless you want to change the common meaning of a word (something you apparently objected to when you thought male homosexuals had "hijacked" the word "gay") you are, by definition of the word, homophobic.

I don't have a strong or irriational fear or dislike for that matter of homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. I love the sinner and hate the sin, that is why I preach against this abomination. I hate what God hates as we are commanded to do.

If being against homosexuality makes someone "homophobic" does being against rape make someone rapeophobic? Does being against terrorism make someone islamophobic? Does being against pedophilia make someone pedophobic? Or could it just mean they have sound moral judgement and know the difference between right and wrong?

 

[Hokulele]

He has already made his ruling perfectly clear on this subject through his Word in the Holy Bible. Although society is not compelled to put homosexuals to death, they are worthy of death.

"Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." Romans 1:32.

Are you sure you do not hate gay people? Sure sounds like it to me.

 

[JoeEllison]

I don't have a strong or irriational fear or dislike for that matter of homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. I love the sinner and hate the sin, that is why I preach against this abomination. I hate what God hates as we are commanded to do.

If being against homosexuality makes someone "homophobic" does being against rape make someone rapeophobic? Does being against terrorism make someone islamophobic? Does being against pedophilia make someone pedophobic? Or could it just mean they have sound moral judgement and know the difference between right and wrong?

"Moral judgment"? No, you haven't made any judgment at all. Your attitude is distinctly amoral.

 

[XenonII]

Yes, but unfortunately not all that helpful. While I agree that ridicule is frequently the only weapon we can bring to bear against such people, since they will ignore everything else, I can't bring myself to believing that straightforward insults are the best way to deal with them. So while I agree with your sentiment in principle, I suggest that it does not serve any real purpose to post it.

It shows how tolerant the left is with differing viewpoints. They are only really tolerant with views they agree with, anything else they resort to childish name calling and insults such as branding people "homophobes" or "racists" for believing in traditional moral values.

 

[JoeEllison]

It shows how tolerant the left is with differing viewpoints. They are only really tolerant with views they agree with, anything else they resort to childish name calling and insults such as branding people "homophobes" or "racists" for believing in traditional moral values.

Interesting. Nothing you posted had any relation to reality, but it so perfectly conformed to the standard declaration from certain sectors that it is almost miraculous.

 

[Hokulele]

It shows how tolerant the left is with differing viewpoints. They are only really tolerant with views they agree with, anything else they resort to childish name calling and insults such as branding people "homophobes" or "racists" for believing in traditional moral values.

No, merely branding people homophobes and racists when they spout homophobic and racist drivel.

 

[XenonII]

XenonII has nothing to say to the fact that he has cited lies by Paul Cameron?

Why are they lies because they don't give the Homosexual Agenda a glowing seal of approval? Because they show the homosexual's lifestyle for the wanton depravity that it is? Btw, Cameron wasn't kicked out of the APA, he resigned.

 

[Hokulele]

Cameron wasn't kicked out of the APA, he resigned.

Wrong.

 

[JoeEllison]

No, merely branding people homophobes and racists when they spout homophobic and racist drivel.

Have you noticed how often this defense of bigotry comes up around here? The fact that people label certain attitudes as bigotry is somehow used to prove that it isn't bigotry, because... well, ummm... I'm not sure that there's a "because" in there. They sort of just declare victory at that point, don't they?

 

[XenonII]

People who still insist that homosexuality is a free choice intrigue me. I deal with it very simply, by asking that they prove their position.

I offer to allow them to do so by asking them to freely choose to be homosexual for, oh, say, the next half hour or so.

Stick that in your sock and smoke it.

Unless you are raped, how is sexual behavior not a free choice?

Anyone could freely choose to be a homosexual at any given moment, most don't though because they find such a thing disgusting, abnormal, unnatural etc and they know that to choose such behavior is morally wrong.

 

[Hokulele]

Have you noticed how often this defense of bigotry comes up around here? The fact that people label certain attitudes as bigotry is somehow used to prove that it isn't bigotry, because... well, ummm... I'm not sure that there's a "because" in there. They sort of just declare victory at that point, don't they?

It must be because everyone on this board is a liberal (heh, check out Politics some time) and liberals are apparently wrong about everything, so they must be wrong about bigotry.


(Ack, I can't even pretend to think like that.)