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Why is exposing Uri geller so important?

EeneyMinnieMoe said:
I've never been able to bend cutlery. Ever. I used to try it as a kid and could never do it. Still can't.
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Really? I bend spoons all the time. If I had a pound for every spoon I've snapped trying to get the ice-cream out of the tub, I'd be able to replace my spoons.
 
Cainkane1 said:
It seems to me that ol Uri has been exposed so many times that it should be getting tiresome. Does he have a group of followers that keep the faith in his spoon bending abilities? I see his name mentioned a lot in here. Why is he so specially bad?
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If you compare Geller or other frauds to people like homeopaths or people who claim to have psychic abilities, there is an obvious difference.
To believe you have special powers or that objects have special powers, convincing yourself of it, can be regarded as some sort of childlike psychological behavior, psychological disturbance, religion, ignorance or even an honest mistake, when they are not doing this knowingly (as a fraud). Of course frauds exist among them too...

Performing a trick, knowingly, and deceiving your public to obtain some favor is obvious fraud and pure malice. This is where fighting them becomes important, since there is no point in convincing them of their errors, because they really know it already. This deception tricks honest unsuspecting people and in a group (I think) they start convincing each other that the impossible is real to obtain social conformity . :eusa_doh:

To break the cycle of deceit between a true fraud and his public, you have to go for the jugular, unmask the deception, and expose their true nature.

Take them down :hit:

Only my opinion... :eusa_angel:

SYL :)
 
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nancy Fowler was a fake but the motels and restaurants sure loved her. They were filled to capacity for years and the stores and restaurants made a killing. I wish the ol gal would crank up her little scam pump some more money into this town.
 
Cainkane1 said:
nancy Fowler was a fake but the motels and restaurants sure loved her. They were filled to capacity for years and the stores and restaurants made a killing. I wish the ol gal would crank up her little scam pump some more money into this town.
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You didn't exactly take firm grasp of my point, there, did you?
 
Cuddles said:
Really? I bend spoons all the time. If I had a pound for every spoon I've snapped trying to get the ice-cream out of the tub, I'd be able to replace my spoons.
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Nope. Never was able to do it. Let me go to the kitchen now and try it.

No way! I did it! It hurt like hell and I had to press the head against the counter with one hand and bend it with the other. I must have ESP! :D

Actually, when I first heard about Uri Geller, I tried to bend my spoons- by hand, not mind, allthough if it bends it's always the same way- and couldn't do it.

What would have been great is if I had seen a woo-woo doing it and told them "Wow, that's amazing! You're strong! "
 
Yes, I have. Very funny :)

Oh no, now I can't bend the spoon back to how it was! I've completely misshapen it trying to put it back and my mom will be livid if she sees it.

That would be a good test for any psychic spoon bender- now put it back to how it was so you can use it to eat again. If you bend metal to your will, it should be no problem.
 
ConspiRaider said:
Geller's a squeaky wheel on the woomobile and so he gets slathered in grease by us normal people.

But really, James Randi can be considered the trailblazer here. What Randi did reminds me of a tiny scene in the original Miracle On 34th Street. It was when Kris Kringle took his cane and hit the "psychologist" with it. Randi - with his tome The Truth About Uri Geller - was really striking out at all the outlets who enabled Geller's woo, and all of whom should have known better.

I remember going through my woo phase in the 1970s and buying into Geller's chicanery. He was being presented as authentic in so many venues that to resist - especially being a wide-eyed teenager then - was basically out of the question.

I read Randi's book about woo-poster-boy Geller sometime in the late 1970s and it began my path toward skepticism.

God I hate to see good people be hoodwinked. I don't even like to see bad people get flim-flammed. So anything Geller is reaping today? It's not enough. But it helps.
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Yes, I completely agree. Randi vs Geller, along with Project Alpha, has forced the more responsible media outlets to be more skeptical. View some of the articles and look at the dates, which show an increasing awareness that magicians and psychics can do the same feats.
 
Questioninggeller said:
Yes, I completely agree. Randi vs Geller, along with Project Alpha, has forced the more responsible media outlets to be more skeptical. View some of the articles and look at the dates, which show an increasing awareness that magicians and psychics can do the same feats.
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Unfortunately, even if Randi's early exploits prompted a positive change in behavior from the "responsible" media, as you claim, the subsequent explosion of cable television, the internet, and other forms of mass media generated many more irresponsible outlets, which gladly tout the claims of psychics and charlatans without any skeptical scrutiny whatsoever.

(I don't know if that sentence is grammatically correct, but it sure is long!)
 
Geller and his ilk contribute to the dumbing down of the planet. Gotta start somewhere getting people to analyze something critically.

glenn
 
Why is Uri Geller continually exposing himself?


There are some things man is not supposed to know!!
 
Reager said:
Unfortunately, even if Randi's early exploits prompted a positive change in behavior from the "responsible" media, as you claim, the subsequent explosion of cable television, the internet, and other forms of mass media generated many more irresponsible outlets, which gladly tout the claims of psychics and charlatans without any skeptical scrutiny whatsoever.
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But that also gives skeptics the same outlets.

The Internet in particular is very good for exposing these frauds, because we have much easier access to that, and don't have to get through big companies who worry more about ratings than truth.
 
CFLarsen said:
But that also gives skeptics the same outlets.

The Internet in particular is very good for exposing these frauds, because we have much easier access to that, and don't have to get through big companies who worry more about ratings than truth.
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Of course those same qualities make the internet great at promoting these frauds.
 
CFLarsen said:
But that also gives skeptics the same outlets.

The Internet in particular is very good for exposing these frauds, because we have much easier access to that, and don't have to get through big companies who worry more about ratings than truth.
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True, for now..let's hope it stays that way.
 
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