Why don't you believe in Hell?

1inChrist said:
The World Weekly news is fake I know but they use real stories for their fake news. They use real beliefs and urban legends. Obviously the writers are atheists who don't believe it's true and wanted to make a mockery out of it but that doesn't mean the screams of Hell isn't real.
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Um, no, 1inC. Z-Dragon is referring to the period leading up to the Council of Nicea around 200AD, at which the bishops of the time debated and voted on which stories and gospels should be in the Christian Bible. They actually deleted some books that used to be there, and added others that weren't. Apparently there was a great deal of skullduggery and underhanded manouvering on the part of various philosophical proponents for their own viewpoint to be overly represented.

The resulting mish-mash of truth, half-truth, and outright balderdash (stuff like Revelations, which was added at this time) went on to be translated a few times from Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic and other languages into Latin, and thence into English about 1400 years later.

And that's how the much-vaunted "authentic" King James Bible came into being.* It's as like the original "Bible" as the 2004 Mustang is like the original Daimler Benz steam cart of 1883.



*Yes, there was a WAY lot more than this involved, but I'm simplifying this for 1inC - he's got so MUCH to learn yet.
 
1inChrist said:
The World Weekly news is fake I know but they use real stories for their fake news. They use real beliefs and urban legends. Obviously the writers are atheists who don't believe it's true and wanted to make a mockery out of it but that doesn't mean the screams of Hell isn't real.
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So where's batboy?
 
Lisa Simpson said:
Are you saying the KJV is not translated from Hebrew and Greek, or am I misunderstanding your ramblings.
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King James has the best translation and anything that comes after that is just an add on to the best tranlsation's original.
 
1inChrist said:
King James has the best translation and anything that comes after that is just an add on to the best tranlsation's original.
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You are assuming the KJV is completely accurate. Do you have proof of that?
 
That's kinda like my opinion of the "night of the living dead" movies. That remake sucked

But they both had people returning from the grave.

kinda makes ya think

maybe not
 
1inChrist said:
The World Weekly news is fake I know but they use real stories for their fake news. They use real beliefs and urban legends. Obviously the writers are atheists who don't believe it's true and wanted to make a mockery out of it but that doesn't mean the screams of Hell isn't real.
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:big:

:tr:
 
DarkMagician said:
What if I said there was a dragon hiding in the astral plane in your house waiting to eat your family. You can't prove it doesn't exist, so it must exist, even though there's no evidence aside from my claim.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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You just invented that idea knowing it's just fantasy. Remember that the authors of the Gospels believed what they were writing and that Jesus was Lord.
 
1inChrist said:
You just invented that idea knowing it's just fantasy. Remember that the authors of the Gospels believed what they were writing and that Jesus was Lord.
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So because they thought it was real, it makes it real?
 
Zep said:
Um, no, 1inC. Z-Dragon is referring to the period leading up to the Council of Nicea around 200AD, at which the bishops of the time debated and voted on which stories and gospels should be in the Christian Bible. They actually deleted some books that used to be there, and added others that weren't. Apparently there was a great deal of skullduggery and underhanded manouvering on the part of various philosophical proponents for their own viewpoint to be overly represented.

The resulting mish-mash of truth, half-truth, and outright balderdash (stuff like Revelations, which was added at this time) went on to be translated a few times from Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic and other languages into Latin, and thence into English about 1400 years later.

And that's how the much-vaunted "authentic" King James Bible came into being.* It's as like the original "Bible" as the 2004 Mustang is like the original Daimler Benz steam cart of 1883.



*Yes, there was a WAY lot more than this involved, but I'm simplifying this for 1inC - he's got so MUCH to learn yet.
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There may be human errors in the history of the Bible but God's message is clear.
 
1inChrist said:
You just invented that idea knowing it's just fantasy. Remember that the authors of the Gospels believed what they were writing and that Jesus was Lord.
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Exactly.
 
1inChrist said:
You just invented that idea knowing it's just fantasy. Remember that the authors of the Gospels believed what they were writing and that Jesus was Lord.
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I have a Polka-Dot Elephant under my bed. I am fairly certain that there is at least one other person on this planet who would believe me if I told this to them. I may even, some day, have a large following in my Polka-Dot Elephant cult.

The number of people believing something is not evidence that it is true.
 
1inChrist said:
Why do you reject that when you die that you will go to Hell and be punished forever?

I have never heard an atheist clearly explain why they don't believe in Hell.
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I don't believe in Hell because if I did I couldn't senselessly kill old women, mutilate puppies, and rape shellfish. Also, I don't like burning.

Happy now?
 
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Somehow, I missed this post...

1inChrist said:
You don't believe in anything?
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Au contraire, mein Trollkin... I believe much. I am not an atheist.
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