Why do spiders have 8 eyes?

espritch said:
I read somewhere that scorpions can have up to 12 eyes. Maybe it was that "Eye Designe" page.

It varies. Most have 3 sets (6 eyes). I even own a bunch of them. (scorpions, not their eyes). I don't know of any that have 12. Very unlikely. Almost all have 6 eyes and if any difference, fewer. Some cave scorpions have no eyes at all. They rely on motion vibrations to find their prey.
 
spiders, depending on species, need all their eyes.

Some have excellent vision, i.e. the hunting species, usually "webless" species (wolf spiders, and jumping spiders). Their vision is considered quite good and can discern detail from quite a distance (sometimes 4' or maybe more).

Many spiders, however, have very simple eyes that recognise simple shapes (the largest two) and light and direction (the rest). What must be realised is that most spiders don't need to have good eyes. They lay a web, using wind and luck to start, after that, it's all about vibrations. Some even wait on a rock, or under the ground (trap-door spiders), for prey to come close.

Most spiders need few things to exist. Shelter, with which to make a web (easy to find, even with bad eyes.) Light, to attract insects looking for the moon (very easy to find, no matter what). Above and beyond that, it comes down to waiting for food to vibrate the web. Then, it's all action time! Imagine if you couldn't move your eyes. Wouldn't you want to have eyes around your head?

And, as in my previous post about scorpions, some species of spiders have no eyes at all. (though some have almost useless, rudimentary eyes). They live in caves where there is little or no light. Some also have 6 eyes as well. (no four-eyed spiders as far as I know) (sorry, bespeckled people). So, as to why they have 8, it's merely to allow them to be as observant as possible and survive. I hate to make it as simple as that, but there it is.

And, as far as the theory of legs=eyes, we, in all rights have 4 legs. Where are the 4 eyes on a horse? Or the 6 eyes on an ant? Just doesn't work out. Sorry CBL4.
 
And, as far as the theory of legs=eyes, we, in all rights have 4 legs. Where are the 4 eyes on a horse? Or the 6 eyes on an ant? Just doesn't work out. Sorry CBL4.
Well, as I said, I think it probably an incorrect theory but horses clearly are irrellevant.

Ants could be irrellevant or could even be used as weak support. Ants have 1 pair of eyes on their head body part and. They have 3 pairs of legs on their thorax. This means that ant anatomy is totally different from spiders which have all the legs and eyes on one body part.

Suppose a mutation combined the ant thorax and head. What would happen? The gene that causes three legs could also cause three eyes leaving a 6 eyed ant. Or more likely not.

I made an off the cuff guess and suggested a test which would help confirm or deny it. It was my attempt at showing how science works. I thought it would be easy to find the confirming/denying evidence. If I had known I could not find it, I would not have made the remark. However, I will be on the lookout for 10 legged spiders.

CBL
 
CBL4 said:
Well, as I said, I think it probably an incorrect theory but horses clearly are irrellevant.

Ants could be irrellevant or could even be used as weak support. Ants have 1 pair of eyes on their head body part and. They have 3 pairs of legs on their thorax. This means that ant anatomy is totally different from spiders which have all the legs and eyes on one body part.

Suppose a mutation combined the ant thorax and head. What would happen? The gene that causes three legs could also cause three eyes leaving a 6 eyed ant. Or more likely not.

I made an off the cuff guess and suggested a test which would help confirm or deny it. It was my attempt at showing how science works. I thought it would be easy to find the confirming/denying evidence. If I had known I could not find it, I would not have made the remark. However, I will be on the lookout for 10 legged spiders.

CBL
sorry, man, didnt mean to sound snarky or anything, though rereading that post, it kinda came out that way. Any of the data I have seen has pointed to the number of eyes having no particular correlation to legs. As I said, there are spiders and scorpions with even no eyes at all. Ticks, which are also arachanids, with eight legs, have only 2 eyes. I've not seen a correlation, though I'm not an entomologist, either. Funnily enought, I study etymology, which almost sounds the same. If you come up with anything, pass it along.
 

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