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Why do people hate Jews?

Pardalis, when Israel is attacked by Islamic Jihadists, from wherever they raise their evil heads, their attacks are made against "the jews" --

That is the "reason d'etre" for brutality directed against Israel.
Do you question that?

AS for a cease-fire, fuggeddaboudit.
Return the hostages first, then we'll think about it.

Why doesn't the terrorist forces of hezbollah seek a diplomatic solution and ceacefire?
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-- dustin asks

Yeah, why don't they return the hostages and stand down from the tree they climbed into?
 
Dustin said:
Why else would someone start a "Why do people hate jews?" thread at this time when the jews are killing so many people?


No other explanation than to divert the attention from the crimes israel is commiting.
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Isn't is possible that not every person is aware of every cause for the discrimination of Jews through out history and they consider it worth discussing it with a group of people who may be able to enlighten them? Is there a history of senorpogo creating threads "to divert the attention from the crimes Israel is committing?"
 
webfusion said:
Pardalis, when Israel is attacked by Islamic Jihadists, from wherever they raise their evil heads, their attacks are made against "the jews" --

That is the "reason d'etre" for brutality directed against Israel.
Do you question that?

AS for a cease-fire, fuggeddaboudit.
Return the hostages first, then we'll think about it.

-- dustin asks

Yeah, why don't they return the hostages and stand down from the tree they climbed into?
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Either Israel is morally superior here or it isn't. If it is..Then it should take be the one pushing for diplomatic solutions not the other way around.

If Israel is on the same tier as Hezbollah then they're both insane fanatical terrorist groups who are killing eachother and civilians dying is a given since they are both unstable.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. But it seems that's what you want.
 
bob_kark said:
Isn't is possible that not every person is aware of every cause for the discrimination of Jews through out history and they consider it worth discussing it with a group of people who may be able to enlighten them? Is there a history of senorpogo creating threads "to divert the attention from the crimes Israel is committing?"
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There have been dozens of threads on that topic in the past. So him starting this thread here and now is an obvious red herring.

If you can't see the obviousness of that fact then i'm wasting my time with you.
 
webfusion said:
Pardalis, when Israel is attacked by Islamic Jihadists, from wherever they raise their evil heads, their attacks are made against "the jews" --

That is the "reason d'etre" for brutality directed against Israel.
Do you question that?
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Of course not. But I don't understand your logic. Aren't the Israeli bombings that are taking place right now in retaliation against these very same attacks against Jews? So it is Jews fighting back. You can't have it both ways.

AS for a cease-fire, fuggeddaboudit.
Return the hostages first, then we'll think about it.
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Are three lives worth killing 500 innocent Lebanese?

This is a false dilemma, you know very well the Hizbollah will never return the hostages, give me a break. :rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong, I am sympathetic to the Jewish cause. In my very limited knowledge of the issue, I think they deserve a country of their own. But you cannot justify these bombings anymore on these three hostages. Israel needs to take a step back.
 
Dustin said:
There have been dozens of threads on that topic in the past. So him starting this thread here and now is an obvious red herring.

If you can't see the obviousness of that fact then i'm wasting my time with you.
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Has their been one dedicated to this topic since March 2006, when he joined? Is it possible he may have missed these previous threads? Why do you assume the worst? Again, does Senorpogo have a history of creating threads "to divert the attention from the crimes Israel is committing?"
 
So it is Jews fighting back. You can't have it both ways.
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What?

It is the IDF fighting. The armed forces of the State of Israel are composed of members other than jews. So, it is not 'jews' which are fighting, it is Druse, Bedouins, Christians, Bah'ais, Jews, Buddhists and Zorastrians for all I know.

Are three lives worth killing 500 innocent Lebanese?
This is a false dilemma, you know very well the Hizbollah will never return the hostages, give me a break.
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You completely ignored the second front of this war (in gaza)? Why is that?
How did you disconnect?

As for the return of the hostages, I know nothing of what you are suggesting.

Israel is not stepping back -- if anything it is going to increase and intensify the bombing raids and send in more troops.
Israel's Defense Minister Amir Peretz said Sunday that Israel would continue its military assault on Hezbollah targets for at least two more weeks.
 
webfusion said:
What?

It is the IDF fighting. The armed forces of the State of Israel are composed of members other than jews. So, it is not 'jews' which are fighting, it is Druse, Bedouins, Christians, Bah'ais, Jews, Buddhists and Zorastrians for all I know.
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Yeah, but the people who are getting killed are also not just Hizbollah. Lebanon is also a diverse nation.

Israel is not stepping back -- if anything it is going to increase and intensify the bombing raids and send in more troops.
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That is not going to help give Israel more credibility and sympathy.
 
We aren't seeing credibility or sympathy.
We are seeking hostages back.

Yeah, but the people who are getting killed are also not just Hizbollah. Lebanon is also a diverse nation.
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Strawman. I have not said that the IDF is 'killing only islamic jihadists'

Dustin, who has thing going here for the jews -- said that "the jews are blowing up hundreds of innocent civilians" and I pointed out that is a false statement. Because it is not "the jews" doing anything ----- it is the legitimate and duly organized Israel Defense Forces. They are not "the jews" any more than the US military is.

The fact that the State of Israel is administered by a Jewish majority and has a jewish cultural plurality, does not translate into the IDF being "the jews"

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/Minority_communities.html
 
webfusion said:
We aren't seeing credibility or sympathy.
We are seeking hostages back.



Strawman. I have not said that the IDF is 'killing only islamic jihadists'

Dustin, who has thing going here for the jews -- said that "the jews are blowing up hundreds of innocent civilians" and I pointed out that is a false statement. Because it is not "the jews" doing anything ----- it is the legitimate and duly organized Israel Defense Forces. They are not "the jews" any more than the US military is.

The fact that the State of Israel is administered by a Jewish majority and has a jewish cultural plurality, does not translate into the IDF being "the jews"

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/Minority_communities.html
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Seems to me you can't have that one both ways web...if people attack Israel, If people fight the Idf.....They get refered to by Israelis as attacking "jews" or "the jews". You are happy to make Israel="The Jews" when it suits.
 
With respect, the issue of the appropriateness of the Israeli response to the kidnapping of its soldiers and the rocket attacks is only very vaguely related to the topic of this thread.

The issue is being discussed by considerably more people and in significantly more detail than here in other threads. If somebody is really looking for a discussion about the issue and not just an opportunity to let off steam then one of thsoe threads is probably a more useful place to discuss the topic.

Perhaps the topic of the conflation of Israel and the Jews might be relevant to this thread as a factor in world anti-semitism today. I brought it up previously but there didn't seem to be much interest in the topic then.

I think it is true that the Zionists made every effort to equate Judaism with Zionism and Israel. I think Sharon did this frequently and fairly recently. As a result, I don't think is too surprising that a lot of middle east rhetoric against Israel has taken on a very anti-semitic tone. To some degree this sounds like a case of "As ye sew so shall ye reap" to me.
 
bob_kark said:
Isn't is possible that not every person is aware of every cause for the discrimination of Jews through out history and they consider it worth discussing it with a group of people who may be able to enlighten them? Is there a history of senorpogo creating threads "to divert the attention from the crimes Israel is committing?"
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I agree, Bob. Besides, senorpogo doesn't exactly sound Jewish to me. ;)
 
Raphael said:
Problem is, everytime Israel takes a step back, those that wish to destroy them take a step forward.
Dustin, at what point is Israel allowed to fight back?
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It has painted itself into a corner. It stepped forward, kept millions under it's control, but they were not citizens. Now, it cannot step forward or back without causing more trouble.
 
a_unique_person said:
It has painted itself into a corner. It stepped forward, kept millions under it's control, but they were not citizens. Now, it cannot step forward or back without causing more trouble.
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Yeah, how dare it be surrounded by genocidal fanatics. Of course, since it is the immediate fault of every man, woman and child in the country, regardless of age, they should all expect their government to just sit there and do nothing while rockets are fired at their homes.
 
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