Why did they "pull" tower seven?

[Bell]

Yes. I think WTC7 was to be the crescendo. It was just in the right location to be on the stage for the positioned cameras to capture it's attack by 'pure chance'.

I don't believe that flight 93 was crashed in Shanksville at all actually. But that's a spin-off story.

So UA93 was supposed to crash in an unknown building in downtown Manhattan but then the government decided to fake a plane crash of that flight in Pennsylvania?

 

[Scott Jurgenson]

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You should remember that all information that comes through the government about 9/11 is highly suspect and unreliable.

But what about the people that were on site that specifically stated that they held human remains in their hands?

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_47536.html

Are all the police officers from shanksville and the coroners in on it?

 

[sheeplesnshills]

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You should remember that all information that comes through the governemnt about 9/11 is highly suspect and unreliable.

Know what? I trust the people who did the investigation much more than I trust you. They are professionals, you are nothing.

 

[Bell]

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You should remember that all information that comes through the government about 9/11 is highly suspect and unreliable.

Evidence?

 

[sheeplesnshills]

So UA93 was supposed to crash in an unknown building in downtown Manhattan but then the government decided to fake a plane crash of that flight in Pennsylvania?

And pulled it off so that nobody but the insane question it!.....wow thats a lot more efficiency and competency than I am used to see from Gov.

 

[Scott Jurgenson]

And pulled it off so that nobody but the insane question it!.....wow thats a lot more efficiency and competency than I am used to see from Gov.

See that's how I feel. In one light you have Gage in an interview calling Bush an idiot, yet in the same light he's saying that members of his regime or mabye him pulled off the greatest hoax of all time.

 

[JLord]

Yes. I think WTC7 was to be the crescendo. It was just in the right location to be on the stage for the positioned cameras to capture it's attack by 'pure chance'.

It would seem like strange thing to do for the grand finale. If anything it should have been the other way around. Crash into WTC7 first, then while everyone is there recording the scene, crash into the two main towers. It doesn't make sense to me that the grand finale would be planned for the least significant of the four targets. It is possible that this was the plan (we have no way of knowing for sure) but doesn't it seem to you that this is a bit counter-intuitive?

 

[Scott Jurgenson]

It would seem like strange thing to do for the grand finale. If anything it should have been the other way around. Crash into WTC7 first, then while everyone is there recording the scene, crash into the two main towers. It doesn't make sense to me that the grand finale would be planned for the least significant of the four targets. It is possible that this was the plan (we have no way of knowing for sure) but doesn't it seem to you that this is a bit counter-intuitive?

Great Logic. Seriously. It makes no sense to hit WTC7 last in a rational mindset. Why would you hit the least important building of the three last? It would be like Bob Dylan playing an encore and playing Like a Rolling Stone, Blowing in the wind and finishing with man gave names to all the animals.

It would make no sense.

 

[bill smith]

It would seem like strange thing to do for the grand finale. If anything it should have been the other way around. Crash into WTC7 first, then while everyone is there recording the scene, crash into the two main towers. It doesn't make sense to me that the grand finale would be planned for the least significant of the four targets. It is possible that this was the plan (we have no way of knowing for sure) but doesn't it seem to you that this is a bit counter-intuitive?

I believe that WTC7 was to be a truly MASSIVE fireball/explosion.

Remember when the Penthouses were dropped first in WTC7 for no apparent reason ?

Well I think there were hundreds of oxygen tanks in there . They planned to flood the air above WTC7 with oxygen and when the fuel from the plane went up there would have been an almighty fireball/explosion. The king of fireballs. They would have saved the best for last.

Then they had to drop the Penthouses first because otherwise they would have ended up on top of the rubble pile spilling dozens of highly-recognisable oxygen tanks everywhere. As it was they were nicely buried under the rubble.

They would have saved the best for last.

 

[Horatius]

Why can't CT's just stop and consider that maybe...just MAYBE...building 7 was not a smoking gun or significant at all. Maybe it just came down becuase a sky skraper fell on top of it and fires weakened it. Why can't they just accept that it is a possibility?

I said it before:

I think the answer goes back to my above post, about being "A Little bit MIHOP". I propose that many Truthers, consciously or not, believe that the events of 9/11 can't be "A little bit Natural". Either they were completely natural (a possibility they discount automatically), or they were completely unnatural.

Why must it be completely unnatural? Well, we've seen the answer to that right here: the "first time in history" argument. Were any Truthers to admit the possibility that WTC 7 could have collapsed due sole to the damage and fires, they would have to accept the possibility that the same happened in the case of the Twin Towers. Were they to simply ignore WTC 7, or allow as to how it fell without assistance of the Conspiracy, that would open a hole in their argument that anyone with any brains at all could point out.

Thus, in their propaganda war, they must insist on the collapse of WTC 7 being a deliberate action on the part of the conspiracy, and the fact that that makes absolutely no sense will continue to be swept under the rug by our local truthers.

And I see nothing today to make me change that opinion.

 

[Scott Jurgenson]

I believe that WTC7 was to be a truly MASSIVE fireball/explosion.

Speculation.

Remember when the Penthouses were dropped first in WTC7 for no apparent reason ?

There are perfectly good explinations and scientific models done which clearly show where the fires burned and how they effected the support and trusses.

Well I think there were hundreds of oxygen tanks in there . They planned to flood the air above WTC7 with oxygen and when the fuel from the plane went up there would have been an almighty fireball/explosion. The king of fireballs. They would have saved the best for last.

Then they had to drop the Penthouses first because otherwise they would have ended up on top of the rubble pile spilling dozens of highly-recognisable oxygen tanks everywhere. As it was they were nicely buried under the rubble.

They would have saved the best for last.

lol

 

[The Charnel Expanse]

I believe that WTC7 was to be a truly MASSIVE fireball/explosion.

Remember when the Penthouses were dropped first in WTC7 for no apparent reason ?

Well I think there were hundreds of oxygen tanks in there . They planned to flood the air above WTC7 with oxygen and when the fuel from the plane went up there would have been an almighty fireball/explosion. The king of fireballs. They would have saved the best for last.

Then they had to drop the Penthouses first because otherwise they would have ended up on top of the rubble pile spilling dozens of highly-recognisable oxygen tanks everywhere. As it was they were nicely buried under the rubble.

They would have saved the best for last.

lol, indeed

 

[Scott Jurgenson]

I said it before:
And I see nothing today to make me change that opinion.

An excellent post kind sir. Well put.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

It would seem like strange thing to do for the grand finale. If anything it should have been the other way around. Crash into WTC7 first, then while everyone is there recording the scene, crash into the two main towers. It doesn't make sense to me that the grand finale would be planned for the least significant of the four targets. It is possible that this was the plan (we have no way of knowing for sure) but doesn't it seem to you that this is a bit counter-intuitive?

Or you could crash into one tower......wait a few minutes and crash into the other...............wow that's what actually happened.

Curious why is nobody surprised about the destruction of WTC 3, 4, 5 and 6?
Perhaps the Marriot Hotel or the Orthodox church was the real 3rd target! The Winter Gardens, too, were badly damaged, perhaps they were the target?

 

[excaza]

I believe that WTC7 was to be a truly MASSIVE fireball/explosion.

That's because you're an idiot. Who would believe a massive fireball would be the natural result of an airplane crash and not something fabricated?

Hint: Nobody with an IQ higher than that of a sea cucumber. Reality is nothing like Hollywood. If they were going to do something that stupid they may as well just have dropped a bomb on the thing.

Then they had to drop the Penthouses first because otherwise they would have ended up on top of the rubble pile spilling dozens of highly-recognisable oxygen tanks everywhere. As it was they were nicely buried under the rubble.

And somehow they would have become less highly-recognizable when the rubble was being taken away?

 

[The Charnel Expanse]

Was WTC7 even tall enough to be hit by a plane without taking out a bunch of other buildings in the process?

 

[sheeplesnshills]

I believe that WTC7 was to be a truly MASSIVE fireball/explosion.

Remember when the Penthouses were dropped first in WTC7 for no apparent reason ?

Well I think there were hundreds of oxygen tanks in there . They planned to flood the air above WTC7 with oxygen and when the fuel from the plane went up there would have been an almighty fireball/explosion. The king of fireballs. They would have saved the best for last.

Then they had to drop the Penthouses first because otherwise they would have ended up on top of the rubble pile spilling dozens of highly-recognisable oxygen tanks everywhere. As it was they were nicely buried under the rubble.

They would have saved the best for last.

LOL ok you got us going. For a moment we thought you were serious

 

[GlennB]

Speculation.

There are perfectly good explinations and scientific models done which clearly show where the fires burned and how they effected the support and trusses.

lol

Scott, you have to bear in mind that Bill is a troll, but of the performance art kind. He's aiming to take his act around the country one day

 

[Horatius]

I don't believe that flight 93 was crashed in Shanksville at all actually. But that's a spin-off story.

And of course they decided all this, and got the men in place to accomplish it, in the time between 8:42 and 10:03.

And now, as if his original time line wasn't insane enough, we have the Perpetrators also organizing a fake crash site in rural Pennsylvania, and somehow disposing of Flight 93, all with no prior planning for that event. Oh, and let's not forget faking the phone calls "on the fly", as it were.


Meanwhile, these are the guys who, according to bill, cannot successfully set fire to a building they've already rigged to be a spectacular "Shock&AWE!" fireball.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Was WTC7 even tall enough to be hit by a plane without taking out a bunch of other buildings in the process?

From the north side it would have been tricky but possible, otherwise very difficult as there were equally tall buildings either side and of course the much taller WTC towers to the south.
Nope, it makes no sense as a target.