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Why 'climategate' won't stop greens

You are not following my logic at all. Apparently nothing I can say will change that. Maybe that's my fault--maybe yours. I really don't care. At least your position has shifted to a relatively more reasonable (though still very wrong imho) one in the process, somehow.

As I said, I give up--I'm retreating from Mordor. Happy posting to you.

Maybe it is me. We seem to be missing tho' dont we. I assure you it's not deliberate.

I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again.
For the time being on AGW, "I is what I is" as a stocky sailor with huge forearms once said.

btw, like most people, I can be totally reasonable and honest when treated in the same way.
Thanks for that.
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Assuming the worst case scenario (GW cannot be stopped) should we be concerned with "plugging the dike" or focused upon adapting to the situation?

Think of the economic opportunities that will evolve.

Houseboats, anyone?
 
Assuming the worst case scenario (GW cannot be stopped) should we be concerned with "plugging the dike" or focused upon adapting to the situation?

Think of the economic opportunities that will evolve.

Houseboats, anyone?

We are not the only species on this planet. But we are the only one that knows how to build houseboats.
 
See?
Humour in Copenhagen, yet.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2009/...ar-phil-jones/


To a chorus of boos, a man dressed as a polar bear entered Copenhagen's main conference center Tuesday and began paging the discredited climate scientist whose hacked e-mails sparked the Climate-Gate scandal.

Using a megaphone to pierce the rumble of hundreds gathered inside the Bella Center, which is hosting the city's global climate summit, the polar bear boomed out:

"PHIL JONES??? HAS ANYONE SEEN PHIL JONES???"
 
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Haha...thats funny...although the guy is probably lucky to still be alive given the ease with which the left becomes violent when anyone questions their religion of global warming (tm).

BTW, anyone see the story about the wikipedia admin guy who got banned recently? Turns out the guy was a co-founder of realclimate.

Funny that isnt it...how intolerant global warming (tm) is to those who doubt their cult.

Mailman
 
You can check out the context on RealClimate, and get the story on what these emails are actually about, if you care to.

Mate...the clowns at realclimate are right smack bang in the centre of climate gate. So please excuse me if I dont use anything realclimate says as evidence against the case against man made global warming (tm).

Although I see another "impartial and totally unbiased" so called scientists from realclimate also HAD his sticky little fingers of global warming (tm) debate on wikipedia. One of the co-founders of RealClimate has just been barred from being an admin because of his bias...although I suspect to you this will be an irrelevance or something taken completely out of context or perhaps I should go to realclimate for the real story behind his removal from wikipedia as an admin?

Fact is, it's already been "sorted out". This is a non-story.

Oh how I doubt we have heard the last of climategate :D

Of course, AGW deniers will keep up their hysterical and fantasy-based reactions for much longer than a year or so.

I believe the real deniers are those like yourself, after all, only a denier would have EVER denied the existence of the mid evil warm period, or the roman warm period, or any previous warm period before then :D

Mailman
 
Mate...the clowns at realclimate are right smack bang in the centre of climate gate. So please excuse me if I dont use anything realclimate says as evidence against the case against man made global warming (tm).

Although I see another "impartial and totally unbiased" so called scientists from realclimate also HAD his sticky little fingers of global warming (tm) debate on wikipedia. One of the co-founders of RealClimate has just been barred from being an admin because of his bias...although I suspect to you this will be an irrelevance or something taken completely out of context or perhaps I should go to realclimate for the real story behind his removal from wikipedia as an admin?

So are you saying that all the commentary on RealClimate, and all the links to other sources from RealClimate, come from CRU scientists?

As for any kerfuffel over at Wikipedia, yeah, it's entirely irrelevant to the research.

If you have any actual evidence to present which shows that the entire body of climate research has been faked, and evidence that explains the current changes we're seeing with some comprehensible theory other than AGW, please present them.

But as it is, yes, you are simply casting unfounded aspersions and quibbling over trifles.

Which is par for the course when it comes to conspiracy theories. Truthers, creationists, and Holocaust deniers do it all the time, for example, because it's all that anyone can do when they're up against uncontrivertible evidence.

When and if you decide to cite evidence for anything you say, then we'll talk.
 
If I read correctly, Piggy never denied they existed, just that they were in any way relevant.

Not exactly. They're relevant in that they demonstrate the feedback loop. Warming raises CO2 which causes more warming. If it weren't for the natural systems that were involved in those warming periods, we wouldn't be in the fix we are now, since as we artificially dump tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, we trigger and fuel a new warming period stronger than any of the previous ones.

But to say that those warming periods somehow imply that the current one isn't caused by human activity, that's just nonsense.
 

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