You want astounding...or pathetic, your choice...a person who spends this much time digging through someone else's "stupid" posts and doing this.
Dear Token,
As Darat said in his sig :
"If it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Quite so.
Two or three hours ago I was so angry with you, Token, that all I wanted to do was to separate
you from the rest of us, and drive you from this Forum. But I realized that this would achieve nothing, except to confirm prejudices on both sides.
And that is your game here, is it not ? You admit you like to come to places like this, you then rant, insult, provoke and antagonize, and eventually the mods (who as you say, tend to be 'liberals' too, ie biased against you) show you the door. You use this to rationalize your own hatred and bitterness, and you move on to the next one.
What a miserable game to play ! What kind of person gets their entertainment by inviting contempt, disgust, anger and rejection from their fellow human beings, over and over again ? An unhappy person, I suspect.
So I reject your game, Token. My anger has gone, and now I feel sorry for you. No need to be offended, feeling sorry for people is my default position. Everybody hurts, everybody suffers, everybody has to say goodbye when their life is snatched away from them. Compassion is appropriate.
And so I'll open my heart to you, and I'll offer you the best advice I can give. I guess you won't hear me, I imagine you'll want to attack me, and you'll regard me as weak for not continuing the fight. So it goes.
I hope you don't deny that you are angry and bitter, Token ? It seems pretty evident to me. This thread for example isn't even an argument, there's nothing to discuss; it exists simply for you to express your hatred for the 'illegals' who are invading your country; you also hate liberals, foreigners, feminists (women generally), teachers, global warmingers (?) and others no doubt... you divide the world into 'us' and 'them', and you blame 'them' for the state of the world and for what's wrong with your life.
How long are you going to live like this ? Desperately defending your world from those you see as threats, hating them and fearing them ?
But believe me, I do understand, Token. I spent years and years being angry, hurting myself and those around me, until I was in danger of destroying myself. I pulled back from the brink, and I managed to turn my life around.
As I said, I'd like to give you some advice, but I fear you'll reject it immediately unless I give it some weight.
I always feel uneasy when I reveal this, old habits die hard, and I haven't mentioned it on this forum before - but if it'll do some good, now's the time.
When I was ten, I fell into the clutches of a group of gay paedophiles. The abuse lasted for several years, my silence and 'cooperation' ensured by death threats. When I grew up, I thought I was free of it at last, but my twenties were blighted by the usual suspects, drug and alcohol abuse, awful behaviour towards my friends, family, and lovers, until I finally realized that I had to face the distress within me, and I got help.
It took years, Token. It took two years of therapy for me to forgive myself (even though I had nothing to forgive myself for). It took another two years to forgive my parents for not protecting me (and to tell them what had happened). And another two years to finally forgive my abusers, and to stop feeling angry towards them, and to stop blaming them for the wreck my life had become.
Halfway-through, fascinated by the changes taking place within me, I decided to become a therapist myself, and did so. I've been practising for nearly twenty years now, the last twelve years full-time in the NHS here in England. I have managed to turn the injuries I suffered into an advantage that I can use to help others: once or twice a year, a patient will reveal abuse to me that they have never told anyone before, because somehow they can sense that I will understand, and that it's safe to tell me, and that I will help them. And they're right.
Token, I'm not saying that you were sexually abused, of course. I'm not a mind-reader, and I don't know why you're so angry, but I'm pretty sure it's got nothing to do with illegal immigrants.
Let me give you an example of you passing the buck, blaming other people for your actions. You won't like me referring to this, but still...
How about MY case: when I was 17, a fully sexually mature 14 year old girl who told me she was 16 seduced ME. I was a virgin until that time. She told me that she'd had a long affair with a 30 yr-old man where she used to live....
So this young girl had already been abused (raped) over a period of time by a man twice her age. You reckon that makes her 'sexually mature' ? And why didn't you help her, tell her parents, or her teachers ?
I had sex with her the first time, by the way, when her mother and 17-yr-old sister were maybe 10 feet away on the other side of a wall. What the hell was her mother doing allowing her 14 yr-old daughter to be in her bedroom, with the door closed with me?
Oh, it's her mother's fault for trusting you, is it ? Maybe she simply thought you were a nice young man, with a good future as a teacher, and that her daughter would be safe with you ?
Still...by the laws of my state at that time, I "raped" this...
Why the quotation marks, Token ? Do you not understand the meaning of "statutory rape" ?
And for the full impact of your misogyny, we need that quote in full:
Still...by the laws of my state at that time, I "raped" this little slut.
Ah right. My mistake. She's not a 14-year-old girl, three years younger than you, and previously the victim of a serial abuser; she's no longer the person you liked and lost your virginity with. She's now a slut.
You're really testing my compassion here, Token.
Should I have been prosecuted?
I can't see why not.
But according to you, you'd be found 'not guilty' because her mother left her alone with you, she lied about her age, she was sexually mature, you were sexually innocent, she was sexually 'experienced', and she was a 'slut'.
This is buck-passing on a grand scale, do you understand ? No jury would accept any of those excuses. Face the facts. You raped that girl. And you're very lucky to have escaped justice.
Listen, Token, I'm sorry I called you a bigot and a hypocrite, accurate though those terms are. I was lured into playing your game. But I was still right - you had no answer except to say that you were astounded, and that I was pathetic. That doesn't really cut it, does it ?
I'm sure that by now you can anticipate my advice to you.
1. Stop playing this liberal-baiting forum game. It merely reinforces your bigotry, and keeps you stuck.
2. Go find a good therapist, and start addressing your real issues.
I have spent over three hours composing this, Token. I hope it hasn't been a total waste of time. Please, at least give it some thought.
I wish you well.
Gnu.
