Why a one-way Crush down is not possible

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Can't any of you hypothesize why they would set off explosions in the sublevels roughly timed to the plane impact?
 
KreeL said:
Random explosion? Were all the explosions witnessed simply random? How do you conclude that?
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The random explosions didn't do anything. Explosions caused by explosives placed by demolition professionals do a bit more. I wonder why you won't explain the connection between the explosion in the basement and the collapse of the building an hour later.
 
Heiwa said:
Funny how this thread goes on without me. Well, I was busy with a funny presentation for my kids' shows that you can study at
http://heiwaco.tripod.com/funnym.htm . Comments are always welcome.
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That it survives without you may be in part a function of the intelligence of your input.

Now that you are back, start explaining why the top of the Balzac-Vitry building did not either bounce off or arrrest.
 
KreeL said:
Can't any of you hypothesize why they would set off explosions in the sublevels roughly timed to the plane impact?
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No. It would not maketactical sense to do so.

That the spires existed and the towers did not topple shows clearly that there was no damage done to the cores, so we can probably rule out that they werte demolition charges.

They also suck as anti-personnel charges. They went off too soon to draw a crowd.

As a soldier and a fire fighter, given two scenarios, one predictable, one utterly Kafkaesque, I have to assume that the more predictable scenario was the one that was running.

Occam's razor and all that.
 
leftysergeant said:
That it survives without you may be in part a function of the intelligence of your input.

Now that you are back, start explaining why the top of the Balzac-Vitry building did not either bounce off or arrrest.
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You have to refer to Experiment 3 in my latest paper. The top part of the Balzac-Vitry building is the first to get destroyed at contact with the lower part after a several storeys 'near freefall' due to controlled demolition of intermediate storeys between top/bottom parts. Compare WTC 7!
 
KreeL said:
Can't any of you hypothesize why they would set off explosions in the sublevels roughly timed to the plane impact?
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That's the job of people constructing insane fantasies. Care to take a shot yourself? You see, we've got a hypothesis that explains the basement explosions; you're the one who hasn't.

Dave
 
FineWine said:
The random explosions didn't do anything. Explosions caused by explosives placed by demolition professionals do a bit more. I wonder why you won't explain the connection between the explosion in the basement and the collapse of the building an hour later.
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You can't think of anything?

What if the explosion timed to coincide with the impact was only there to clear out the workers? They all left, did they not? Workers in the sublevels reported massive smoke and failing lights. They immediately evacuated.

A team of black ops take that opportunity to wrap the thermite cutting charges around the last remaining obstacles they faced --47 exposed cores at the bottom. The one thing they couldn't do without raising suspicion in the weeks leading up to 9/11.

Actually a pretty good plan.
 
KreeL said:
A team of black ops take that opportunity to wrap the thermite cutting charges around the last remaining obstacles they faced --47 exposed cores at the bottom. The one thing they couldn't do without raising suspicion in the weeks leading up to 9/11.
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That would be the ones that were left standing after the collapse, right? Maybe the thermite wasn't nano enough.

Dave
 
KreeL said:
You can't think of anything?

What if the explosion timed to coincide with the impact was only there to clear out the workers? They all left, did they not? Workers in the sublevels reported massive smoke and failing lights. They immediately evacuated.

A team of black ops take that opportunity to wrap the thermite cutting charges around the last remaining obstacles they faced --47 exposed cores at the bottom. The one thing they couldn't do without raising suspicion in the weeks leading up to 9/11.

Actually a pretty good plan.
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Great plan.

So a black ops team planted explosives in the basement to clear the basement so a black ops team could……………plant more explosives in the basement.

:con2:
 
A device in the sublevel area remotely detonated would assure evacuation. That wouldn't be much of a problem. Would it?
 
KreeL said:
A device in the sublevel area remotely detonated would assure evacuation. That wouldn't be much of a problem. Would it?
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No Problem at all. So let we get this straight you reckon that a black op team planted a remotely detonated device in the sub level of each tower to clear this level so another black op team could rush in, once each plane had hit and plant more explosives on the core in the basement.

Since each building started to collapse many stories above at the point of impact and parts of each core actually survived the collapse, what exactly was the point of all this ?
 
KreeL said:
What if the explosion timed to coincide with the impact was only there to clear out the workers? They all left, did they not?
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No. They were looking for co-workers, if they still had their wits about them. And then they had the fire department coming into the building because they knew that there was no immediate reason to evacuate the basement. They would, on hearing of the damage in the basement, have sent teams down there to look for further casualties.


After making a sweep of the area to ensure that everyone was out, they would not have let some bunch of dorks take a load of undisclosed whater down into the basement Your scenario makes no tactical sense.
 
So KreeL, have you discovered yet how many of the the elevator shafts actually all the way to the top, even if the elevators themselves didn't? How the elevators were stacked on top of each other in the same shaft?
 
KreeL said:
You can't think of anything?

What if the explosion timed to coincide with the impact was only there to clear out the workers? They all left, did they not? Workers in the sublevels reported massive smoke and failing lights. They immediately evacuated.

A team of black ops take that opportunity to wrap the thermite cutting charges around the last remaining obstacles they faced --47 exposed cores at the bottom. The one thing they couldn't do without raising suspicion in the weeks leading up to 9/11.

Actually a pretty good plan.
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Yeah, a "team of black ops" rushes into a building to do something with imaginary "thermite cutting charges." An hour later, the building collapses from the floors hit by the plane. I can see you've put a lot of thought into this stuff. When do you figure out that 9/11 was not an inside job?
 
stateofgrace said:
No Problem at all. So let we get this straight you reckon that a black op team planted a remotely detonated device in the sub level of each tower to clear this level so another black op team could rush in, once each plane had hit and plant more explosives on the core in the basement.

Since each building started to collapse many stories above at the point of impact and parts of each core actually survived the collapse, what exactly was the point of all this ?
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He's having a little problem connecting the jet fuel explosion in the basement with the eventual collapse of the building.
 
KreeL said:
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A team of black ops take that opportunity to wrap the thermite cutting charges around the last remaining obstacles they faced --47 exposed cores at the bottom. The one thing they couldn't do without raising suspicion in the weeks leading up to 9/11.

Actually a pretty good plan.
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Dirt dumb nut case plan. Your attempt to apologize for terrorist is sophomoric. Failure. At least you stated an scenario! good for you



The collapse was from the top, not the bottom. You know the topic sort of.
 
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