Why a one-way Crush down is not possible

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KreeL said:
I've already answered your question, wildcat.
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This is a lie, which is pretty much what we've all come to expect from the "truth" movement.

Now, after we resolve this issue we can move on to the elevator shafts.

You claim that the core columns did not reach high temps. This rules out thermite on the core columns, correct?
 
KreeL said:
No explosives.

Are you counting Rodriguez's testimony of the huge explosion in the sublevel? Oh, of course not because....why that would mean....uhhhh....ummmm....

Join the cognitive dissonance club, FineWine. [qimg]http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_cheers.png[/qimg]
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I have been reading about Rodriguez on Gravy's site. He is someone who changes his story often.

Speaking of cognitive dissonance, you are trying to pretend that an explosion when the plane hit had some connection to the building's collapse an hour later? What does that have to do with controlled demolition? You think that someone placed explosives in the basement and much later the building collapsed from the impact floors? Do you people think at all about what you write? How can you take yourselves seriously?
 
KreeL said:
Lefty, for your own sake, please go find out how they tested the core steel for temperature values.
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Largely by the effects of heat on paint. (The paint which idiot boy Jones tries top call thermite.) There were no thermite effects in the paint, ergo, no need to test for thermite. There was nothing upon which to even perform tests. Get a clue. The grown-ups have been reminding twoofers from day one of the therm*te craze that they are talking about ambient items not specific to therm*te.

I've already answered your question, wildcat.
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You merely think you did. No one else sees it as an answer.
 
Heiwa said:
Thanks!
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Hey Heiwa re "I will give Heiwa $1 million dollars if anything he has written about the WTC collapses ends up in a legitimate engineering journal."

get the karate kid to put that into writing
 
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FineWine said:
I have been reading about Rodriguez on Gravy's site. He is someone who changes his story often.

Speaking of cognitive dissonance, you are trying to pretend that an explosion when the plane hit had some connection to the building's collapse an hour later? What does that have to do with controlled demolition? You think that someone placed explosives in the basement and much later the building collapsed from the impact floors? Do you people think at all about what you write? How can you take yourselves seriously?
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If the explosion wasn't needed in the sublevel, why did it occur?:confused:

This wasn't simply Rodriguez's testimony as victims have been documented.

Other people have verified his testimony. Maybe I am mistaken, but are you claiming it didn't happen?
 
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KreeL said:
If the explosion wasn't needed in the sublevel, why did it occur?
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Please, pardon (and, if possible, alleviate) my ignorance on the whole issue*:

Which explosion in the sublevel ?

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* to me, when I see 9/11 written down, I still think its an equivalent for 0.81818181818181
 
I promise, I ain't being obtuse

As far as I'm aware, the 1st explosion happened way way up high where and when the first plane hit... is that what you mean?

And, if so, what's the 'sub level'
 
KreeL said:
If the explosion wasn't needed in the sublevel, why did it occur?:confused:
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I approve of your choice of smiley. What level of confusion does it indeed require not to understand that what you have articulated is an argument against any conspiratorial explanation for the basement deflagration?

Dave
 
KreeL said:
If the explosion wasn't needed in the sublevel, why did it occur?:confused:

This wasn't simply Rodriguez's testimony as victims have been documented.

Other people have verified his testimony. Maybe I am mistaken, but are you claiming it didn't happen?
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Oh good, you're back. Care to clear this up KreeL?
WildCat said:
You claim that the core columns did not reach high temps. This rules out thermite on the core columns, correct?
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I'll be happy to discuss lyin' Willie's basement bomb after we reesolve this issue.
 
KreeL said:
If the explosion wasn't needed in the sublevel, why did it occur?:confused:

This wasn't simply Rodriguez's testimony as victims have been documented.

Other people have verified his testimony. Maybe I am mistaken, but are you claiming it didn't happen?
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I think you've made my point. A jet fuel explosion in the basement had no connection with the collapse of the building much later.
 
FineWine said:
I think you've made my point. A jet fuel explosion in the basement had no connection with the collapse of the building much later.
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Let me get this straight..."jet fuel explosion in the basement"?

Really?

So when the plane crashed into the 93rd floor the jet fuel survived that big fireball, then it managed to find it's way all the way down into the basement through 93+ floors AND travel backwards in time while it's at it (because the explosions in the basement were heard before the plane impact) and then somehow ignited when it reached the basement?

Is that it? And no this is not an exaggeration of what you are saying, because this is what had to have happened for a "jet fuel explosion in the basement"
 
SteveAustin said:
Let me get this straight..."jet fuel explosion in the basement"?

Really?

So when the plane crashed into the 93rd floor the jet fuel survived that big fireball, then it managed to find it's way all the way down into the basement through 93+ floors AND travel backwards in time while it's at it (because the explosions in the basement were heard before the plane impact) and then somehow ignited when it reached the basement?

Is that it? And no this is not an exaggeration of what you are saying, because this is what had to have happened for a "jet fuel explosion in the basement"
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How would those in the basement know when the plane hit?
 
SteveAustin said:
Let me get this straight..."jet fuel explosion in the basement"?

Really?

So when the plane crashed into the 93rd floor the jet fuel survived that big fireball, then it managed to find it's way all the way down into the basement through 93+ floors AND travel backwards in time while it's at it (because the explosions in the basement were heard before the plane impact) and then somehow ignited when it reached the basement?

Is that it? And no this is not an exaggeration of what you are saying, because this is what had to have happened for a "jet fuel explosion in the basement"
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Yes, jet fuel poured down the elevator shafts. You are saying that THEY planted a bomb in the basement for no particular reason? Certainly the explosion had nothing to do with the collapse of the building an hour later.
Nobody heard an explosion before the plane hit because there was no explosion before the plane hit.
 
Let me get this straight..."jet fuel explosion in the basement"?

Really?

So when the plane crashed into the 93rd floor the jet fuel survived that big fireball, then it managed to find it's way all the way down into the basement through 93+ floors AND travel backwards in time while it's at it (because the explosions in the basement were heard before the plane impact) and then somehow ignited when it reached the basement?

Is that it? And no this is not an exaggeration of what you are saying, because this is what had to have happened for a "jet fuel explosion in the basement"
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911Truth can't post on topic if they tried. 911Truth posts off topic due to lack of knowledge or what?

Why is 911Truth always off topic? Can 911Truth read the OP and understand the topic? http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140047

911Truth always post stupid questions and zero evidence.
 
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SteveAustin said:
Let me get this straight..."jet fuel explosion in the basement"?

Really?
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Really.

So when the plane crashed into the 93rd floor the jet fuel survived that big fireball,
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Yep. Can you think of any reason how jet fuel could survive the firerball without burning: Hint: what does jet fuel require to burn?

then it managed to find it's way all the way down into the basement through 93+ floors
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Yes, jet fuel tends to flow down hill in our world. Don't know about the alternate universe truthers live in.

AND travel backwards in time while it's at it (because the explosions in the basement were heard before the plane impact) and then somehow ignited when it reached the basement?
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No, the explosion didn't happen before the plane impact. That's just silly.

Is that it? And no this is not an exaggeration of what you are saying, because this is what had to have happened for a "jet fuel explosion in the basement"
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No, that is the lie "truthers" tell to perpetuate their fantasy.
 
KreeL said:
Since this seems to be the crux of your rebuttal, can you show us how you arrived at that conclusion?
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Oh, good to see you are back KreeL.
You contend that none of the core columns got very hot, this rules out thermite on the core columns, correct?

Or will you continue to run away from this very simple question like a schoolgirl from a spider?
 
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