• Security incident: ISF was recently accessed by intruders. Please change your password, and change it anywhere else you used it. Read more

Who will win the Alabama Senate special election?

Who will win the senate seat


  • Total voters
    88
  • Poll closed .
I’m sure he was talking about all families. But it is fascinating that even in slave families who suffered all those terrible things, the family unit was much more health than it is today. That is all he is saying.

It is not a healthy or close family when women are routinely forced to be raped and produce children against their will (against the male's will as well). You are calling forced breeding a healthy family.
 
Yeah if you’re going out of your way to mid his meaning.

Mid his meaning? He is the one who called the American family strong when Americans as a matter of law were having their children ripped from them and sold. Forced to have children against their will.

All those children produced from the slave owner raping a slave and sold sure is a strong family.
 
I’m sure he was talking about all families. But it is fascinating that even in slave families who suffered all those terrible things, the family unit was much more health than it is today. That is all he is saying.

Excuse me while I throw up. You used to make some sense. What the hell happened?
 
It is not a healthy or close family when women are routinely forced to be raped and produce children against their will (against the male's will as well). You are calling forced breeding a healthy family.

Really? I don’t remember posting that. You seem to be once again trying to miss the point.
 
Mid his meaning? He is the one who called the American family strong when Americans as a matter of law were having their children ripped from them and sold. Forced to have children against their will.

All those children produced from the slave owner raping a slave and sold sure is a strong family.

Miss....

This I-pad spell check does some funny things.

When a family is violated in whatever way, does that mean they don’t have a strong family?
 
Really? I don’t remember posting that. You seem to be once again trying to miss the point.

The alternative is you ignore the most defining attribute of early 1800s American families. That would be intellectual malpractice.
 
Miss....

This I-pad spell check does some funny things.

When a family is violated in whatever way, does that mean they don’t have a strong family?

No. Just the ones that are so severe it is systemativ family annihilation.
 
Excuse me while I throw up. You used to make some sense. What the hell happened?

You’re emotion is causing you to miss the clear fact that even though those families went through unspeakable tragedy and violation, they were clearly better than the rot we see today. That doesn’t take away the awfulness of slavery or the things that it represented.
 
No. Just the ones that are so severe it is systemativ family annihilation.

Just the ones? So now the others were in fact better? You’re giving up the emotional statement that all families were terrible back then because of the tragedies they suffered?
 
You’re emotion is causing you to miss the clear fact that even though those families went through unspeakable tragedy and violation, they were clearly better than the rot we see today. That doesn’t take away the awfulness of slavery or the things that it represented.

That actually does take away from slavery and the things it represented. That is the problem.

Not to mention you have no evidence for your claim of better families.
 
Just the ones? So now the others were in fact better? You’re giving up the emotional statement that all families were terrible back then because of the tragedies they suffered?

Yes. They were all terrible for Americans enslaved. That isn't an emotional claim.
 
Stronger families during slavery? When slave families were routinely broken up and kids sold to other plantations? Are you kidding me?

Also, most states allowed only white male adult property owners to vote, women couldn't vote in any state, wives & children were considered property of the husband, spousal rape wasn't accepted as a crime and only men could seek divorce. It was a time that sucked for everyone that wasn't a white male land owner.
 
Yes. They were all terrible for Americans enslaved. That isn't an emotional claim.

Agreed, but that isn’t what we’re talking about nor was the judge. He was high lighting the fact that obviously even through all that the families were much better than many AA families of today. If you think his statement was to somehow justify slavery, you’re not being realistic.
 
Also, most states allowed only white male adult property owners to vote, women couldn't vote in any state, wives & children were considered property of the husband, spousal rape wasn't accepted as a crime and only men could seek divorce. It was a time that sucked for everyone that wasn't a white male land owner.

And in spite of all that, families were doing much better.
 

ISF - Join now!

Every member here is approved by hand. No bots, no spam, just people who care about evidence and honest debate.

Membership is free!

Create your free account

Back
Top Bottom