Who started both World Wars?

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There is nothing respectable about the British.

Better?

Unlike me Matthew is a English native speaker himself from downunder (if I am not mistaken) and tries to at least score some sad points on the spelling front.

Losing proposition because the one-and-a-half lurker will think: "hey, Matthew has no arguments so he starts nitpicking".
 
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Sad indeed. Gawdzilla is completely unable to formulate a rebuttal. But he will not admit that and hence he goes into the I-know-it-all-better-but-I-am-not-going-to-tell-you mode.

Yes thats the only possible reason. Because it is the only one that feeds YOUR ego
 
The strength of Wiki is the ability to follow the references rather than the text. When I have a choice I always try to use primary sources. Having said that, Wiki is also helpful in gaining broad brush stroke overviews of events

Primary sources should also be suspect. It is helpful to know the author and their agenda.
 
V2? Seems the German's skipped heavy bombers and went straight to ICBMs (but it has been explained in history, the topic you are light in). Why did they kill millions of Jews? The German's lost the war the second Hitler found himself to be a member of the superior race, a syphilitic idiot in the superior race; pure moronic nonsense. only a dirt dumb NAZI can dream up a bigger hallucination, the super race.

Your mind is really twisted when it come to topics concerning WWII. You never sound rational when you make such comments.
 
Primary sources should also be suspect. It is helpful to know the author and their agenda.

Well duh. That's practically the first thing you get taught in any social science class. Check your sources for signs of bias etc.
 
. My heart is breaking in the sight of these kind of losses, boohoo. Fact remains that that killratio (innocent civilians)/(bomber pilots) is extremely high. With a few hundred of these Anglo mass murderer low lifes it was possible to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians, including (mainly) women and children. Not to mention the outright evaporation of tenths of thousands of Japanese civilians in a matter of seconds with no other intention then to terrorize.

Then why did the Axis start bombing the allied cities for ? Kind of stupid of them what?

Oh and I corrected your mistake
a few hundred of these Anglo German mass murderer low lifes it was possible to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians

What you seem to be mad about is that the Germans (and the Japanese + Itlay) started it then got the worst of it.

So were German, Japanese and Italian bomber crews also low lifes for being bomber crews or just anglos? LOL

... of the terror bombing campaign of which we have earlier established that it was started by the British

Only you think that and as we have noted before you are hard of thinking
 
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The real reason was that the Germans never planned for a world war in the first place.

Yes they planned for a series of 'smaller' wars but Hitlers plan for destroying the Slavs was a bit to much eh?

Oh and 9/11 lets not forget those questions you keep dodging - why do you dodge them?

Tell us about operation Tannenbaum? Were the Swiss going to attack the Germans? Or were the German's planning to save the Swiss from an Anglo invasion?

What is the importance of 'veetig'?

What did you think of Anton's treason against the Dutch?

And I'll add one. Tell us why the German's invaded Luxembourg then treated those fine people so harshly? Were the Luxies going to attack Germany?

All questions will repeat until properly answered
 
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These V-1/V-2 did only a fraction of the damage as a result of the terror bombing campaign of which we have earlier established that it was started by the British. My heart is breaking in the sight of these kind of losses, boohoo. Fact remains that that killratio (innocent civilians)/(bomber pilots) is extremely high. With a few hundred of these Anglo mass murderer low lifes it was possible to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians, including (mainly) women and children


First, you missed the essential point of the aircrew loss figures: It utterly demolished your claim of it being a 'safe' way for the Allies to wage war on Germany. Funny how you overlooked that part of it. No mea culpas from you on getting that completely wrong, I guess?

Second, please remind me: Who was it again who worked in the factories of Germany building the tanks, artillery, fighters, bombers, rifles, machine guns, pistols, uniforms, bullets, bombs, shells, destroyers, U-boats, torpedoes, and other assorted implements of war? Who was it who worked in the fields growing the food to feed the German military? Who was it who worked in the mines who dug up the raw resorces needed for the factories building the implements of war? Who was it who ran the railways which transported the raw resources to the factories and the finished goods to the men fighting at the fronts? Who was it who worked in the oil refineries and electrical plants which provided the energy to power German military production and fuel the military's vehicles and vessels? Who was it who supplied the replacements for those military personnel who were killed or captured during battle?

Who could it be? Oh, yes, CIVILIANS.

The point you constantly avoid addressing: Without the vital input of the German civilian population, the war would have come to a quick halt. Armies cannot fight without equipment and provisions, especially large militaries with large arsenals.

No civilians, no economy; no econonmy, no military; no military, no war.

The German civilian population bears its share of responsibility for the war. You can pretend it doesn't all you like but it does just the same, notwithstanding your avoidance of reality. Because without the German civilian population the war could not have happened and without it the war could not have been sustained. They didn't quit doing all the many jobs that allowed the German military to keep functioning. They kept on supporting that war effort right up until the end.

It seems you're just jealous of the fact that the Allies were able to do to Germany what Germany wanted to do but failed to do to its enemies. But then, Germany was dumb enough to fight a war where the GDP of its rivals outnumbered it by some two to one. Pretty stupid, that. War between industrialized nation-states is, first and foremost, a war of attrition. Whichever side produces the most for the longest wins. One side electing to wage war when it's on the short end of a 2:1 production ratio has chosen to lose. Painfully.

Do tell me, if you're sitting in the chair of the Allies high command, how do you prosecute the war? What is your strategy? How do you intend to prevent German industry from building war material? Ask them nicely not to?


Not to mention the outright evaporation of tenths of thousands of Japanese civilians in a matter of seconds with no other intention then to terrorize.


It seems you're ignoring the most obvious reason: Demonstrating once and for all the futility of Japan to continue fighting when it was clear to every other sane person the nation had lost the war. And yet, even after being hit by an atomic bomb, Japan still didn't surrender. It took a second atomic bomb to finally convince them to give up. Stubborn bunch of folks, it seems. Suicidally stubborn, in fact.

Or perhaps you would have preferred the non-atomic bomb approach of continuing the naval blockage of Japan and carrying on with the bombing campaign. That only would have resulted in the starvation of millions of Japanese citizens over a period of many months. I guess you somehow consider that more humane than ending the war quickly?
 
So the Jews are responsible for the 'Glorious Revolution' as well?

here was me thinking it was an umpopular Catholic King went off to fight in Ireland. Then, while he was away a group of the Protestant Nobility seized the opportunity to invite Whilliam of Orange into the country as a Protestant King. I guess everyone else in the world was wrong about that one as well.

Is there any event in history the Jews are not responsible for?
 
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The Germans respected the British, that was their catastrophic mistake. There is nothing respectable about the British. The Americans operate on a higher level, thanks to the input of German blood, the Germans still being the largest minority in America.

Wow. I'm almost speechless. I didn't expect you to make my point for me so elegantly. Everything, to you, is about race. You are a relic of an obsolete race of superstitious, silly men best left to ancient history.
 
Wow. I'm almost speechless. I didn't expect you to make my point for me so elegantly. Everything, to you, is about race. You are a relic of an obsolete race of superstitious, silly men best left to ancient history.

I guess he forgot about the Saxons, Angles, Jutes and Danes who colonized England. I guess he hasn't heard the term 'Anglo-Saxons'? LOL

Onbehouwen !
 
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