Who started both World Wars?

[9/11-investigator]

So, 9/11, tell us, when did this irrational disdain for anglo-saxons begin ? Let's start with your childhood...

That disdain came late in my life. Cause: the internet + rapidly changing demography in the Netherlands.

During my younger years I was always in conflict with my father. For me America was Great, my father in contrast had sympathies for the Russians.
Until 2000 I was a liberal yuppie, ever more leaning to the right as my income increased. In 1995 I went a whole week to Normandy to visit the beaches that were stormed 51 years earlier. Additionally I hopped to Dover to visit the war time tunnels. Churchill was my hero then, have several biographies of him, like the one from Sebastian Haffner. Jews were great as well, brave little people living from hardship to hardship, always persecuted, blablabla. Furthermore I have worked everywhere in Europe, including Germany, France and the UK. Worked with many Americans as well. Dutch-Anglo chemistry is easy and I always got along fine Americans and British. What was special about me was that I had early sympathies for Germany as well. Had to do with a relationship with a German woman in my early adult years. Through her I started to interest myself for Germany, no revisionist ideas in sight though. Everything changed around 2000: I returned to Holland after years of working in Germany, the rise of the Pim Fortuyn phenomenon and 9/11. I was shocked to see Amsterdam (had not been there for 15 years). It had become a muslim city, the situation in Germany was/is far less grave. It was a development I had completely missed. I started to think about the origins of multiculturalism, the cause of the destruction of my nation. A breakthrough was the reading of the Kevin MacDonald trilogy. I matched those books with the behaviour of politicians in The Netherlands. My God, how often did I not do the google entry <firstname lastname Jew/Jood>, must have been thousands of times. And a pattern began to emerge. To be honest, the 9/11 attacks had a very pleasant side effect that the tabu on discussing mass scale immigration from muslim territory had slowly vanished, also thanks to the martyrship of Pim Fortuyn. I still believed the official 9/11 story though. Then came the murder of Theo van Gogh, a few blocks from where I currently live. I had to restrain myself to not go onto the streets and start throwing molotov cocktails through windows of muslim showkeepers (Next time I will if something will happen to Wilders, university degree or no university degree).

With the books of Kevin MacDonald the internal barrier against questioning the Jews slowly disappeared, aided by daily visits of antiwar.com/Justin Raimondo. The insight that the Jews were behind communism arose, the US Zionist power structure became apparent and finally that tabu of the tabus, the holocaust came crumbling down. I discovered Irving, the IHR, youtube videos, etc. I started to make a vast ordered collection of web pages, pdf's, video's. Then after 2005 the insight rose that 9/11 had been a false flag operation carried out by the Mossad.

To answer your question: my disdain for the Anglo's is a consequence of my insight that they are totally subjugated by the Jews. In contrast the Germans were the only ones who (initially) were strong enough to stand up against the Jews. But it were the Anglos who together with the Soviets were instrumental in bringing the Germans down and as a consequence European civilization all to the benefit of the Jews. And once you know that the H-word is a fabrication, war propaganda, my disdain for the Anglos knows no boundaries. In my eyes the Germans represent the best of the white race, the Anglos the worst.

Figures, does it not?

 

[Andy_Ross]

I think you are just having a laugh at our expense. Admit it this is al a big laugh, stringing along the guys on JREF.

 

[MG1962]

Really.
The "CHildren in the Ardennes" is a direct implication that the German troops who launched "Wacht Am Rhein" were basically the quality level of what was encountered later in Germany in the Volkssturm...poor quality troops that were underage or over age.
In reality, Hitler used the best he had left in the Ardennes. It was his last major gamble. Overall the quality of German troops was indeed down by late 1944..by a lot...but the overall quality of the units in the Ardennes Offensive was pretty damn high..including almost all of the Elite SS Armored Divisions. Just read any account of the battle.

Sorry I am not disagreeing with you - I am well aware of the quality of German troop avaliable in that offensive. The Afrika Korp did bost a number of elite formations such as the Herman Goering Division and the 5th Panzer army who we also present in the Ardennes in a reorganised form

 

[9/11-investigator]

I think you are just having a laugh at our expense. Admit it this is al a big laugh, stringing along the guys on JREF.

You really think that a high-paid person like me would waste hours of his valuable time on having fun with a handfull of anonymous people like you? We have the internet now and thus the opportunity to construct a few blog torpedos designed to hit the enemies of European civilization midship.

You.

 

[dafydd]

That disdain came late in my life. Cause: the internet + rapidly changing demography in the Netherlands.

During my younger years I was always in conflict with my father. For me America was Great, my father in contrast had sympathies for the Russians.
Until 2000 I was a liberal yuppie, ever more leaning to the right as my income increased. In 1995 I went a whole week to Normandy to visit the beaches that were stormed 51 years earlier. Additionally I hopped to Dover to visit the war time tunnels. Churchill was my hero then, have several biographies of him, like the one from Sebastian Haffner. Jews were great as well, brave little people living from hardship to hardship, always persecuted, blablabla. Furthermore I have worked everywhere in Europe, including Germany, France and the UK. Worked with many Americans as well. Dutch-Anglo chemistry is easy and I always got along fine Americans and British. What was special about me was that I had early sympathies for Germany as well. Had to do with a relationship with a German woman in my early adult years. Through her I started to interest myself for Germany, no revisionist ideas in sight though. Everything changed around 2000: I returned to Holland after years of working in Germany, the rise of the Pim Fortuyn phenomenon and 9/11. I was shocked to see Amsterdam (had not been there for 15 years). It had become a muslim city, the situation in Germany was/is far less grave. It was a development I had completely missed. I started to think about the origins of multiculturalism, the cause of the destruction of my nation. A breakthrough was the reading of the Kevin MacDonald trilogy. I matched those books with the behaviour of politicians in The Netherlands. My God, how often did I not do the google entry <firstname lastname Jew/Jood>, must have been thousands of times. And a pattern began to emerge. To be honest, the 9/11 attacks had a very pleasant side effect that the tabu on discussing mass scale immigration from muslim territory had slowly vanished, also thanks to the martyrship of Pim Fortuyn. I still believed the official 9/11 story though. Then came the murder of Theo van Gogh, a few blocks from where I currently live. I had to restrain myself to not go onto the streets and start throwing molotov cocktails through windows of muslim showkeepers (Next time I will if something will happen to Wilders, university degree or no university degree).

With the books of Kevin MacDonald the internal barrier against questioning the Jews slowly disappeared, aided by daily visits of antiwar.com/Justin Raimondo. The insight that the Jews were behind communism arose, the US Zionist power structure became apparent and finally that tabu of the tabus, the holocaust came crumbling down. I discovered Irving, the IHR, youtube videos, etc. I started to make a vast ordered collection of web pages, pdf's, video's. Then after 2005 the insight rose that 9/11 had been a false flag operation carried out by the Mossad.

To answer your question: my disdain for the Anglo's is a consequence of my insight that they are totally subjugated by the Jews. In contrast the Germans were the only ones who (initially) were strong enough to stand up against the Jews. But it were the Anglos who together with the Soviets were instrumental in bringing the Germans down and as a consequence European civilization all to the benefit of the Jews. And once you know that the H-word is a fabrication, war propaganda, my disdain for the Anglos knows no boundaries. In my eyes the Germans represent the best of the white race, the Anglos the worst.

Figures, does it not?

How wrong can you be? I'm starting to suspect that you are just having a laugh with us,nobody could really believe the above.

 

[Belz...]

To answer your question: my disdain for the Anglo's is a consequence of my insight that they are totally subjugated by the Jews.

And yet you're still to show this.

To me, Jews are just like any other group of humans. I don't see why people like you give them special attention. In fact, I suspect than antisemites give them far more attention than the people they feel are "jew-lovers".

In contrast the Germans were the only ones who (initially) were strong enough to stand up against the Jews.

Why would you "stand up" against one particular group ? Because you feel they have too much economic/political power ?

But it were the Anglos who together with the Soviets were instrumental in bringing the Germans down and as a consequence European civilization all to the benefit of the Jews.

Evidence that the jews have benefited from this ? Aside from getting their own little war-torn piece of turf ? And what about the jews NOT part of all this ?

 

[Belz...]

In my eyes the Germans represent the best of the white race, the Anglos the worst.

So not only do you separate people into broadly-defined "races", but you also subdivide races into smaller groups, each with its own place in the hierarchy ? Does that sound reasonable to you ?

And what's your take on the French ?

 

[Uzzy]

You really think that a high-paid person like me would waste hours of his valuable time on having fun with a handfull of anonymous people like you? We have the internet now and thus the opportunity to construct a few blog torpedos designed to hit the enemies of European civilization midship.

You.

Yes.. blog torpedos. On the Internet. You do know who developed that, right? Those wacky Americans. And you do know who developed the World Wide Web, right? Sir Tim Berners-Lee OM, KBE, FRS, FREng, FRSA, who's British. Oh, and look. Seems that Germany has a binge drinking problem too. See, it's fun picking the worst of a nation and comparing it to the best of another one.

One last thing. European Civilisation is the antithesis of your heroes, the Nazi party.

 

[9/11-investigator]

And what's your take on the French ?

They produce excellent perfumes...

P.S. nah, you probably want to hear something nice. Let's say I like the French much better the way they were before 1789. My only hero from WW2 is general Charles de Gaulles, the only French military who was able deal to the Germans a local blow (I believe it was the tank battle near Laon). He wanted France to remain catholic and white. He would have abhorred to see what France has become now. He early on pleaded for an Anglo-free Europe from Atlantic to the Ural.

My kinda guy.

P.S.2 The French at least have Le Pen and the Front National since decades. That makes them much better than the British. And they have nukes, the A380 (together with the other Europeans), TGV, Ariane, a functioning car industry. But my future geopolitics is:

Berlin-Moscow-Paris, not Paris-Berlin-Moscou

 

[gtm]

They produce excellent perfumes...

& good cheese, challenging cinema etc

Is your real name 'Franz Liebkind' by any chance?

 

[Myriad]

So this is all really about the muslims?

Does 9/11-i hate muslims for destroying his culture, or love them for antagonizing the Jews whom he hates for introducing multiculturalism that permitted muslims to destroy his culture?

It must be terrible to be so torn between hatred and shameful forbidden love.

He knew Abdul had come to his city only to destroy his culture. But when he gazed at Abdul's smoky eyes, the muslim's chiseled features and virile beard, his sinewy desert-hardened form standing defiantly in front of his shop window, strange feelings flooded through him that he could neither deny nor admit. Instead of the burning Molotov cocktail in his hand, at that moment it was a different sort of burning cock and tail he wanted to throw at the immigrant shopkeeper. And could it be that, in the muslim's eyes, behind the mixed expressions of fear and challenge, there was some hint that the young Jordanian was feeling it too?

No! he told himself. Stop staring and throw the cock... that is, the bottle! This cannot be! Yet he could not throw the device whose flames were now but a pale echo of the fire raging in his heart, could not turn and run, could not above all look away, as the moment stretched out, painfully and irresistibly.

Then, salvation: his lips mouthed words that came to him unbidden. "It's all the Jews' fault." And when Abdul's eyes widened ever so slightly in agreement, he knew to his overwhelming joy that their world would never be the same.

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[9/11-investigator]

So this is all really about the muslims?

No, it is about left wing culture destroyers. You.

Does 9/11-i hate muslims for destroying his culture, or love them for antagonizing the Jews whom he hates for introducing multiculturalism that permitted muslims to destroy his culture?

I love muslims for the excellent way they make themselves impossible. The Jews who brought them here are now being attacked by their own pets. Cannot deny a little schadenfreude. They are now even considering bringing 'lokjoden' (Lure Jews) onto the streets to provoke Maroccan 'antisemites'. Here a mockery photoshop of our would-be next jewish PM Job Cohen. It is more likely that the Dutch are going to be saved by the racism of the allochtones than by their own virtually non-existing racism.

It must be terrible to be so torn between hatred and shameful forbidden love.

He knew Abdul had come to his city only to destroy his culture. But when he gazed at Abdul's smoky eyes, the muslim's chiseled features and virile beard, his sinewy desert-hardened form standing defiantly in front of his shop window, strange feelings flooded through him that he could neither deny nor admit. Instead of the burning Molotov cocktail in his hand, at that moment it was a different sort of burning cock and tail he wanted to throw at the immigrant shopkeeper. And could it be that, in the muslim's eyes, behind the mixed expressions of fear and challenge, there was some hint that the young Jordanian was feeling it too?

No! he told himself. Stop staring and throw the cock... that is, the bottle! This cannot be! Yet he could not throw the device whose flames were now but a pale echo of the fire raging in his heart, could not turn and run, could not above all look away, as the moment stretched out, painfully and irresistibly.

Then, salvation: his lips mouthed words that came to him unbidden. "It's all the Jews' fault." And when Abdul's eyes widened ever so slightly in agreement, he knew to his overwhelming joy that their world would never be the same.

Respectfully,
Myriad

You will be surprised to learn that I get along rather well with muslims (on an individual level that is). They agree with me on 9/11-Israel link, although they sense I vote PVV they still get along with me. But hey, did not the old Nazis get along well with them? Their value system suits me much better that that of my (Dutch) lefty collegues, who are my real enemies, who simply want to import left wing voters.

 

[gtm]

You will be surprised to learn that I get along rather well with muslims (on an individual level that is). But hey, did not the old Nazis get along well with them? Their value system suits me much better that that of my (Dutch) lefty collegues, who are my real enemies, who simply want to import left wing voters.

Not at all - I can easily envisage you having plenty in common with the kind of Islamist psychos who blow up underground trains, fly aircraft into sky scrapers & butcher unarmed civilians in their horrible beheading films. You both implacably hate jews, buy into a millenial 'end of days' world view & advocate the most appalling savagery to progress your goals.

Have you heard of David Myatt?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul-Aziz_ibn_Myatt

 

[9/11-investigator]

Not at all - I can easily envisage you having plenty in common with the kind of Islamist psychos who blow up underground trains, fly aircraft into sky scrapers

Excuse me but it were the Jew psychos who did that.

butcher unarmed civilians in their horrible beheading films.

I can remember only one. But if that is enough reason for you to stop the influx of these 'psychos', please be my guest.

You both implacably hate jews

Why should I like people who try to destroy my country and who organized communism where millions were slaughtered?

buy into a millenial 'end of days' world view

I do not buy at all into these views, except of course in your end.

advocate the most appalling savagery to progress your goals.

Really? Maybe that our friend from a city-nuking high culture can provide quotes to back his projections up?

 

[9/11-investigator]

Is your real name 'Franz Liebkind' by any chance?

Djeeezz.... how did you find that out?!

 

[SanityGap]

Sanity Gap just dumped a large text without making any annotation whatsoever. He did not probably read it himself and...

As it happens I was at work and got called away. I never got back to it, hence the dump. I am an appalling typist and find long tracts of typing a chore, which limits any annotation I may feel is necessary. In this case I believe the meaning is clear and the accusation of quote mining stands.

You assume I have not read it. I have, twice, just to ensure it was relevant. Do not presume to know me.

 

[gtm]

Djeeezz.... how did you find that out?!

I'm partly Jewish remember? I reached out to my 'homies' in Mossad & they looked into you for me.

 

[Andy_Ross]

They say, the Germans will never forgive the Jews, for the Holocaust.

Like the French forgave the Germans for the Occupation but have never forgiven the US and Britain for the Liberation.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Like the French forgave the Germans for the Occupation but have never forgiven the US and Britain for the Liberation.

For good reason. Before 1940 the French run a world empire. When Soviets and Americans were finished with Europe, the French found themselves back as, well, 'part of the West'.

Not so sexy.

 

[Andy_Ross]

It was the Japanese that took their far east empire then after the war the locals wouldn't give it back. Did you ever hear of Dien Bien Phu It led to the Vietnam War.
In Africa the French tried to torture and massacre their way through the population of Algeria butthey had to leave there as well. De Gaul in the end wouldn't give the army a free hand to carry on. he saw the writing on the wall.

What did it have to do with the Americans?