Who started both World Wars?

[9/11-investigator]

I've always wondered, if the master race really is the master race, why is everything controlled and run by jews? Doesn't sound very masterful to me.

Nobody says that 'The Jews run everything', on the contrary. They do however have total control over the US and almost total control over Britain. And a very strong position in France, Australia and a few more countries. But that's it.

 

[gtm]

Once you see through this Anglo-Jewish complicity in deceit it becomes very difficult to encounter an Englishmen without having to vomit. **

As an Englishman of party jewish descent the feeling is mutual. You're peddling perverted, racist history that seeks to blame every cataclysm in modern european history on the 'jews' & as such are deserving an equal dose of contempt & pity in equal measures.

You need to to take a long hard look at the course you're taking in life. Something has gone badly wrong.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Thus showing the mental gymnastics neo-Nazis will undertake in order to blame the Jews for everything;

Nobody blames the Jews for WW1.

Hitler was justified in murdering nearly six million Jews

We are still waiting for your proof that that happened.

because a small group of people - different people to the ones Hitler murdered, let's not forget -were allowed to settle in British-controlled Palestine, an area that Germany had never had any claim over; and America's declaration of war on Germany was nothing whatsoever to do with

That's was the great stupidity of the Germans that they shipped the likes of Anne Frank away to the east. They were not acting Jewish enough. The Jews are far more effective in decapitating a nation, ask the Poles. What should be done once the truth behind 911 and Auschwitz and WW2 emerges (thanks to the internet that Joe Lieberman wants to switch off, one wonders why. Probably afraid that the Goyim will find out that his ethnic palls organized 9/11) is to ship some 10,000 Jewish ring leaders behind 9/11, the Iraq war, the immigration policy, the bail-outs, etc. to, say, Smolensk and let the Poles and Russians settle some historic scores. My advice: let them write lines like "we are not allowed to fool the Goyim, to exercise usury, to falsify history ('holocaust'), to bolshevize the world, to start famines like the Holomodor, to destroy nations with multiculturalism". Once the likes of Richard Pearl, Wolfowitz and many more have written these lines 10 million times, they are free to go.

I must confess to a vague desire to vomit, but it's nothing to do with being an Englishman, even one who isn't from Bolton.

Not that I care where you live but you certainly provoke such an assumption while professing that your location is 'Notlob'.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I think if you checked you'd find that the Turks held Palestine during most of WWI as they had for centuries. The British conquered the majority of the area during WWI, taking Jerusalem on December 1917.

That's what I say: not for centuries but during WW1, or rather the part of WW1 that matters, namely the last part before Versailles.

 

[9/11-investigator]

As an Englishman of party jewish descent the feeling is mutual. You're peddling perverted, racist history that seeks to blame every cataclysm in modern european history on the 'jews' & as such are deserving an equal dose of contempt & pity in equal measures.

Translation: gtm has no reply against the damning statements made by Benjamin Freedman. Neither has Dave who is not from Bolton.

You need to to take a long hard look at the course you're taking in life. Something has gone badly wrong.

Where my life really went 'wrong' was with the advent of the internet and many months being away from home spent in hotel rooms after work visiting interesting sites ever since 2000.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I must confess to a vague desire to vomit, but it's nothing to do with being an Englishman, even one who isn't from Bolton.

Nobody will demand from Dave to vomit just because he is English. After all he is not a 'self-hating Brit', unlike these British divers:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nges-Allied-claims-solely-passenger-ship.html

OK, so the Jews wanted Palestine in return for organizing American entry in WW1 for the sake of destroying Germany which had become too big for the British and their centuries old 'splendid isolation' policy. Germany must perish, so to speak. After all, the Germans during WW1 had offered peace repeatedly from a position of strength, basically saying: "let's have a group hug and go home". But the British were not satisfied with anything less than the destruction of Germany. That was their motive during WW1 and WW2. Even the bitch Thatcher tried to prevent the reunification of Germany in 1990 from a 'little Englander instinct'. Coronation Street gone wild, so to speak.

The problem was how to achieve American war entry. Not difficult for our eternal deceivers: just fill a passenger ship with contrabande and 'leak' this information to the Germans who were than forced to sink the ship (and were entitled to do so under international law).

Balfour and the Lusitania are the 2 dirty secrets behind WW1 now all in the open, thanks to the internet, that Joe Lieberman wants to switch off in case of an 'emergency'.

 

[Dave Rogers]

The problem was how to achieve American war entry. Not difficult for our eternal deceivers: just fill a passenger ship with contrabande and 'leak' this information to the Germans who were than forced to sink the ship (and were entitled to do so ).

That's fine, apart from the following minor niggles: the ammunition on board was listed on the cargo manifest and therefore was never a secret in the first place; the Germans were not entitled to sink any ship without stopping it, searching it for contraband and allowing any civilians on board to be evacuated by lifeboats; the Germans were in no way forced to sink the ship; and the sinking of the Lusitania wasn't the cause of US entry into the First World War.

But apart from every fact in it, your post contains no incorrect facts.

Dave

 

[gtm]

Translation: gtm has no reply against the damning statements made by Benjamin Freedman. Neither has Dave who is not from Bolton.



Where my life really went 'wrong' was with the advent of the internet and many months being away from home spent in hotel rooms after work visiting interesting sites ever since 2000.

Freedman was a notorious crank & his 'account' has no historical value whatsoever. Is there any evidence he was actually at the Versailles Conference? If so in what capacity? Would he have been privy to high level talks? Is there any independent evidence that confirms these telegrams to Justice Brandeis exist?

As for where you life went 'wrong' I'm quite willing to take you on your word about lurking in hotel rooms.

 

[9/11-investigator]

That's fine, apart from the following minor niggles: the ammunition on board was listed on the cargo manifest and therefore was never a secret in the first place; the Germans were not entitled to sink any ship without stopping it, searching it for contraband and allowing any civilians on board to be evacuated by lifeboats; the Germans were in no way forced to sink the ship; and the sinking of the Lusitania wasn't the cause of US entry into the First World War.

But apart from every fact in it, your post contains no incorrect facts.

I suggest that you write a letter to the 'self-hating' Daily Mail then since they view the matter somewhat in a different light:

Munitions they found in the hold suggest that the Germans had been right all along in claiming the ship was carrying war materials and was a legitimate military target.

The disaster was used to whip up anti-German anger, especially in the U.S., where 128 of the 1,198 victims came from.

A hundred of the dead were children, many of them under two.

Robert Lansing, the U.S. secretary of state, later wrote that the sinking gave him the 'conviction we would ultimately become the ally of Britain'.

Americans were even told, falsely, that German children were given a day off school to celebrate the sinking of the Lusitania...

The disaster inspired a multitude of recruitment posters demanding vengeance for the victims.

I am not saying that the Lusitania was only the reason for the Americans to enter the war, but it certainly was used to sell the war to the American public.

And here we have Churchill again:

Winston Churchill, who was first Lord of the Admiralty and has long been suspected of knowing more about the circumstances of the attack than he let on in public, wrote in a confidential letter shortly before the sinking that some German submarine attacks were to be welcomed.

He said: 'It is most important to attract neutral shipping to our shores, in the hope especially of embroiling the U.S. with Germany.


Why do I have associations with the hardly veiled wish for a 'New Pearl Harbor' by our neocon friends in the US?

 

[9/11-investigator]

Freedman was a notorious crank & his 'account' has no historical value whatsoever.

Could you elaborate a bit on your statements?

Copies from mental ward documents for instance?

Just to avoid the impression that you make these statements because you don't like Freedman's message for ethno-centric reasons. I mean, you confessed as much that you are 'partly' Jewish.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Dave Rogers]

I suggest that you write a letter to the 'self-hating' Daily Mail then since they view the matter somewhat in a different light:

I wouldn't abuse an innocent piece of paper by sending it to the Daily Mail. It's one of the least authoritative sources I could imagine; its core business is pandering to the bitter anger of those of modest ability who feel that the world owes them a free lunch and are convinced that someone else must have stolen it from them. I'm not surprised you rate it so highly.

Dave

 

[gtm]

Could you elaborate a bit on your statements?

Copies from mental ward documents for instance?

Just to avoid the impression that you make these statements because you don't like Freedman's message for ethno-centric reasons. I mean, you confessed as much that you are 'partly' Jewish.

Thanks in advance.

You don't have to be under formal psychiatric treatment to be a 'crank'.

Your last paragraph is beneath contempt.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I wouldn't abuse an innocent piece of paper by sending it to the Daily Mail. It's one of the least authoritative sources I could imagine; its core business is pandering to the bitter anger of those of modest ability who feel that the world owes them a free lunch and are convinced that someone else must have stolen it from them. I'm not surprised you rate it so highly.

Smear, no content. Running out of arguments.

 

[9/11-investigator]

You don't have to be under formal psychiatric treatment to be a 'crank'.

Your last paragraph is beneath contempt.

Smear, no content. Running out of arguments.

 

[Dave Rogers]

I am not saying that the Lusitania was only the reason for the Americans to enter the war, but it certainly was used to sell the war to the American public.

Sad, then, that Germany was taken in by the nefarious Jewish plot. All they had to do was not offer military aid to a Mexican invasion of America, and not make it clear that they'd be sinking a whole lot more American ships whether or not they happened to contain smalll-arms ammunition, and the whole thing would have been foiled. But it seems that, in the early 20th Century, Germany so often forgot to take the minor precaution of not threatening or carrying out blatant acts of aggression against countries it clearly had no intention of going to war with.

Dave

 

[Andy_Ross]

Daily Mail, the paper owned by Friend of th Nazis Lord Rothmere??

Lord Rothermere was a friend and supporter of both Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler, which influenced the Mail's political stance towards them up to 1939.

On 10 July 1933, Rothermere wrote an editorial titled "Youth Triumphant" in support of Adolf Hitler, which was subsequently used as propaganda by the Nazis. In early 1934, ceasing after a meeting at Kensington Olympia in June, Rothermere and the Mail were editorially sympathetic to Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists. Rothermere wrote an article entitled "Hurrah for the Blackshirts", in January 1934, praising Mosley for his "sound, commonsense, Conservative doctrine

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail

 

[Dave Rogers]

Smear, no content. Running out of arguments.

Wrong. Appropriate response to your appeal to the authority of the Daily Mail, which has none.

Dave

 

[Thunder]

OK, so the Jews wanted Palestine in return for organizing American entry in WW1 for the sake of destroying Germany which had become too big for the British and their centuries old 'splendid isolation' policy.

prove it.

how the hell did "the Jews" force the USA to enter WW1?

did "the Jews" attack the Lusitania, and the 2 other ships after that which were attacked by German U-Boats?

did "the Jews" conspire to create the Zimmerman Letter...against the wishes of the Kaiser?

prove it.

 

[gtm]

Smear, no content. Running out of arguments.

Please provide evidence of Freedman's a) attendance at the Versailles Conference b) his role there c) whether or not he had access to the high level meetings d) & the Brandeis telegrams.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Please provide evidence of Freedman's a) attendance at the Versailles Conference b) his role there c) whether or not he had access to the high level meetings d) & the Brandeis telegrams.

Why don't you prove that he was not there?

He said so himself he was there.

Not believing Freedman would be a clear sign of blatant antisemitism and we are all glad we are not like that.