Who started both World Wars?

[McHrozni]

Given who posted the list, it is quite obvious that this was not a mistake, but intentional. That poster has his the typical Nazi delusions about history, which of course do not permit him to accept that WW1 was started by part of his "Master Race", and that WW2 began halfway around the world. In his mind, there is only space for the Evil Communist Jewish World Conspiracy aimed at destroying his "Master Race".

I resent the notion that he has a mind, but agree with the rest.

mcHrozni

 

[DC]

Naziquiz sucks

 

[BaaBaa]

All you have to do is read the Protocols.

Or the "Hitler Diaries", if your tastes in "books gullible Nazis love" are a little more au courant.

 

[plumjam]

The World Wars were a dastardly British plot to lose a million men, most of the Empire, virtually bankrupt the nation, and tip geopolitical power in the direction of the USA and Russia.

This mostly worked, with the caveat that the British film industry - and Sir John Mills in particular - did rather well out of it.

 

[Wolrab]

My grandfather started both wars as a joke. He was a son of a bitch.

 

[Red3]

All you have to do is read the Protocols.

Haha, good one...

 

[Tatyana]

Het Nederlands has had a history of covert racism, and the education has been slipping.

I blame the socialidienst, they pay people far too much, they can't be bothered to get off their arses for any job, so the 'foreigners' are taking over.

I worked illegally in Amsterdam for nearly three years. It was easy to get a job due to all the young Dutch people on welfare.

 

[Mojo]

All you have to do is read the Protocols.

You think they were started by Napoleon III?

 

[Damien Evans]

Germany.

Next.

Only for the second one. The first was more complicated than that, but if I had to pick one it would be the Austro-Hungarians, for that ridiculous list of demands they sent Serbia.

 

[Chaos]

Only for the second one. The first was more complicated than that, but if I had to pick one it would be the Austro-Hungarians, for that ridiculous list of demands they sent Serbia.

I think Austro-Hungary, Russia and Germany all deserve a major kick to the butt for that one. If not for their respective boneheadedness and warmongering...

 

[Morrigan]

I think Austro-Hungary, Russia and Germany all deserve a major kick to the butt for that one. If not for their respective boneheadedness and warmongering...

Don't forget Serbia.

Only for the second one. The first was more complicated than that, but if I had to pick one it would be the Austro-Hungarians, for that ridiculous list of demands they sent Serbia.

As Hans said, that list of demands wasn't really unreasonable considering the circumstances. The 48 hours delay was a bit too short, though. But Serbia should have accepted the terms.

 

[plumjam]

Only for the second one. The first was more complicated than that, but if I had to pick one it would be the Austro-Hungarians, for that ridiculous list of demands they sent Serbia.

It'll be Mariah Carey that starts World War Three.

 

[Wolrab]

It'll be Mariah Carey that starts World War Three.

Only because my grandfather is dead.

 

[Chaos]

Don't forget Serbia.

Good point.

 

[plumjam]

Don't forget Serbia.

And then Serbia goes and beats Germany 1-0.
Just shows you how short memories are these days.

 

[9/11-investigator]

The whole idea that "the Jews" are responsible for BOTH WW1 and WW2 is just pathetic and stupid.

Nobody says that 'the Jews' were responsible for BOTH WW1 and WW2.

There is a kosher consensus building here about the causes of WW1 and so far no mentioning of the Jews.

Relax.

Or rather wait until Balfour comes up.

And Versailles.

 

[9/11-investigator]

The World Wars were a dastardly British plot to lose a million men, most of the Empire, virtually bankrupt the nation, and tip geopolitical power in the direction of the USA and Russia.

This mostly worked, with the caveat that the British film industry - and Sir John Mills in particular - did rather well out of it.

Basically correct.

The rest of the thread will mainly consist in fine tuning the definition of 'British'

 

[9/11-investigator]

I worked illegally in Amsterdam for nearly three years. It was easy to get a job due to all the young Dutch people on welfare.

Are your name and avatar indicative for the nature of your illegal job?

 

[9/11-investigator]

My grandfather started both wars as a joke. He was a son of a bitch.

I find that hard to believe.

Churchill's love life was virtually non-existent.

 

[Saggy]

Going back to WW I .... it is an astounding testament to the complete stupidity of human beings and societies that I doubt that 1 % of the population in the 'developed' countries could provide a coherent account of how the war started, and I unfortunately have to include myself with the blockheaded 99%.

That said ... from this thread there is a consensus that the war started between Germany/Austria and the Serbs backed by Russia, and that the context was that the major nations of Europe were already on a collision course with an emerging Russia.

Is that right? How did the alliances develop after the war started?

And, to get the Jewish angle involved, how were the wars financed? Who/what were the major national and international financial institutions? What role did they play? And who is the fellow to read on this? Niall Ferguson? Watch the PBS version?