Who started both World Wars?

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Gawdzilla said:
You're appalling ignorance of the modern military obvious. You can't skim an article and learn anything of value. Try attacking a USN CBG sometime. Please, oh please try it.
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Same tactics as with the Pearl Harbor discussion. Avoid discussion and smear your way out of the mess.
 
Gawdzilla said:
You said it was not a mongrel nation. Your beloved Adolf said it was. Who's right, you or your tin-pot god?
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I am of course. Dolfie probably spoke from a pure German nationalist perspective, where my loyalties are as strong with Europe as with Holland.

But I have to admit, the Americans have a low racial consciousness, not because of some imagined moral superiority but because:
1) of their typical '1/4 Ukrainian, 1/4 German, 1/4 Spanish, 1/4 Irish' 'racial/genetic make-up' and
2) being descendants of lower European classes where 'blood' obviously is less of an important matter.

You have no millenia old history to fall back upon, unlike the Dutch, Germans and Russians. You are a sort of white mulatto's. Maybe that is what Dolfie meant.

Just to be sure, you have a link to where Dolfie said that America was 'mongrelized'?
 
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9/11-investigator said:
I am of course. Dolfie probably spoke from a pure German nationalist perspective, where my loyalties are as strong with Europe as with Holland.

But I have to admit, the Americans have a low racial consciousness, not because of some imagined moral superiority but because of their typical 1) '1/4 Ukrainian, 1/4 German, 1/4 Spanish, 1/4 Irish' 'racial/genetic make-up' and 2) being descendants of lower European classes where 'blood' obviously is less of an important matter. You have no millenia old history to fall back upon, unlike the Dutch, Germans and Russians. You are a sort of white mulatto's. Maybe that is what Dolfie meant.
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You are your own worst enemy, you know that, don't you? Nobody else has to try to make you look foolish, we couldn't do the job you're doing.
Just to be sure, you have a link to where Dolfie said that America was mongrelized?
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It's in your Bible.
 
This is the core of the Suvorov theory:

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p501a_Weber.html

Suvorov writes that on June 13, 1941 Stalin secretly began "the biggest troop movement by a single state in the history of civilization," transferring enormous military forces to the Soviet-German frontier. The Soviet troops were deployed there not for defense, but in preparation for a surprise invasion. "It seems certain," writes Suvorov, "that the Soviet concentration on the frontier was due to be completed by July 10. Thus, the German blow which fell just 19 days earlier found the Red Army in the most unfavorable situation -- in railway waggons."
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If this turns out to be true than I have to change my opinion on answering this question:

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9/11 -Investigator, who would you prefer to have won World War II (in the west)?
The Axis powers or the Allies?

Please do not dodge the question.
(Dodging the question will also include trying to argue that both the Axis powers and the Allies were suffering unbeknowing puppets in the hands of the Jews)
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If the H-word turns out to be an Anglo/Jewish lie (and it likely is) and Suvurov is right then it is obvious that the good guys (Germans) lost and the Anglo predator and war mongering bad guys in service of Jewish interests won.

Am I clear enough?
 
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As I expected, you consider yourself a 'Nietzschean'. I think Nietzsche would be disgusted that men like you abuse his work. You probably picture yourself as one of the new philosophers, creating new values and new works, yet in reality you're far from being a mensch, let alone uber.
 
Gawdzilla said:
You are your own worst enemy, you know that, don't you? Nobody else has to try to make you look foolish, we couldn't do the job you're doing.
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Content free smear.

It's in your Bible.
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I told you that if I have a bible it is the books of Nietzsche.

I admit I struggled my way through the entire MK and noticed it was the writing of a party apparatchik, a representative of the lower German classes. In my Nietzschean aristocratic world view there is no room for these kind of people in the corridors of power, neither for Hitler, nor for Stalin, nor for Americans.
 
9/11-investigator said:
Content free smear.
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What? Jealous?
I told you that if I have a bible it is the books of Nietzsche.
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Oh, I totally believe you. Everything you say, without exception.

I admit I struggled my way through the entire MK and noticed it was the writing of a party apparatchik, a representative of the lower German classes. In my Nietzschean aristocratic world view there is no room for these kind of people in the corridors of power, neither for Hitler, nor for Stalin, nor for Americans.
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So, you'd rather be an embarrassment to Nietzcheans than Nazis? Fine.
 
Ninny/11, you do realize that all of us, even the European elite that you think you are a part of, are members of one race, the human race, and that the origins of every member of the human race are in Africa, right?
 
Arisia said:
Ninny/11, you do realize that all of us, even the European elite that you think you are a part of, are members of one race, the human race, and that the origins of every member of the human race are in Africa, right?
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Everything else in his paradigm is an artificial construct, why not "race".

"I have my own special definition and you can't argue with it, I made it up myself."
 
Arisia said:
9/11, you do realize that all of us, even the European elite that you think you are a part of, are members of one race, the human race, and that the origins of every member of the human race are in Africa, right?
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I won't let my present day policy designs be too much influenced by what may or may not have happened tens or even hundreds of thousands of years ago.

I see what happened in Zimbabwe, South-Africa and America and I don't like it.

I am happy with what Holland is (or was rather) and you can keep humanity to yourself and invite the lot to America for all I care. Happy civilizational dying. Please send me a postcard from the grave, will ya?

PS: Zimbabwian economy is flying high after oppressive Europeans were thrown out. All Zimbabwians are millionair now.
 
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9/11-investigator said:
The party who has the strongest beliefs/religious fervour wins, not some bunch of low-moral soldiers who have no clue why they fight. That is the case in Iraq, Afghanistan and was the case in Vietnam.
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Actually...the party that is on its own home turf wins. That's how America won the War of Independence despite being constantly bested on the battlefield.
 
9/11-investigator said:
The USSR was a different case all together. They vastly outnumbered the Germans, with superior weapons.
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Heh! No.

Later in the war, the Soviets were able to bring better armament to the battlefield. This wasn't ready yet when Hitler attacked.

He was completely surprised because he knew that the Germans never planned for an invasion of the USSR. The Nazis were nationalists who wanted Germany for the Germans. The Germans had basically achieved their territorial aims after the division of Poland. But Stalin wanted world revolution. His plan was to extend Bolshevism until the Atlantic. Thanks to the heroic actions of the Germans he failed.
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Wrong. You are making the same mistake of people who thought Hitler wanted to take over the world. Hitler occupied the countries west of Germany to create a buffer zone against the British. Likewise, Stalin occupied eastern Europe for the same reason, to ensure that his country would never be taken by surprise again from the West.

If it was the heroic actions of the Germans that kept Stalin at bay, tell me: Was it the Germans who convinced Stalin to pull out of Iran?
 
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