Which Tory Is The Biggest Moron?

Undesired Walrus said:
Andyandy,

I understand you prefaced that view of the right with 'this is my generalisation' but I've read enough of your posts to know that is what you believe!



3 general election victories with a decade of low unemployment and continuous economic growth? I don't think that counts as being destroyed.
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I agree that is what I believe in general :).
But I do accept that there are people who are right wing and fit into either:
A) rich and motivated by self interest
B) motivated by the "antis"

eg - people who genuinely believe something like the (largely disproved) trickle down economic theory - where it is argued that the rich getting richer is also good for the rest of the population. Alternatively people who are not yet rich, but have a belief that soon they will be - and thus support pro rich policies because they think that one day they will benefit them. It's just that I think that these form a minority relative to the other two categories.

I'm sure we've had this argument about labour before - they moved so far to the right during their time in power that they became almost a Tory-lite on many issues. Now that the real Tories are in power they are able to advance many of these labour ideas further (NHS privatisations, acadamies, tuition fees etc). And labour have been left with no voice. Support these policies and you may as well support the Tories, oppose them? Well who can you vote for? The greens?
 
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Ed's new economic plan - ape the Tories:

http://m.guardian.co.uk/politics/20...economic-redibility?cat=politics&type=article

Ed Balls, the shadow chancellor, has moved to challenge accusations that Labour is not credible on the economy by telling the public sector unions that he endorses George Osborne's public sector pay freeze until the end of the parliament, and that he accepts every spending cut being imposed by the Conservatives.
His remarks on pay are likely to infuriate unions, including some of the party's biggest financial backers.
In an interview with the Guardian, Balls said: "It is now inevitable that public sector pay restraint will have to continue through this parliament. Labour cannot duck that reality and won't. There is no way we should be arguing for higher pay when the choice is between higher pay and bringing unemployment down.
"I know there will be some people in the trade union movement and the Labour party who will think of course Labour has got to oppose that pay restraint in 2014 and 2015. That is something we cannot do, should not do and will not do."
Additional pay restraint announced by Osborne in the autumn statement will save the Treasury an extra £600m in 2013-14 and £1.075bn in 2014-15. The chancellor said departmental budgets would be adjusted to assume an average 1% rise in both years, 1% below expected inflation. The chancellor imposed a total freeze in the previous two years.
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Feel sorry for public sector workers - 2 years pay freeze with inflation at 5%, then 2 further years below inflation pay rises (a 2% rate prediction seems optimistic - but let's see....). That's going to be a 12-15% real wage cut - plus increased national insurance plus increased pensions contributions, plus lower pension returns. That's taking it to about 20% real wage reduction in a parliament.....wow.
 
geni said:
Almost certianly some back bencher you've never heard of. Anyone who can make it to cabinet level will have an operational brain.
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Not necessarily, if he's the only Scottish Conservative MP.

I rest my case.

Rolfe.
 
More on Mundell.

http://subrosa-blonde.blogspot.com/2009/10/david-mundell-scottish-tory-mp-not-good.html

One tory source said, "Mundell is not Cabinet-level material, but getting rid of him presents the problem of a viable alternative." David Mundell has been the only tory MP in Scotland since 2005 and therefore will naturally expect the promotion and he must be choking on his cornflakes to read today's Sunday Herald.
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The really bizarre thing about that article is the statement that the Conservatives were expected to win six constituencies in Scotland in 2010. What on earth gave anyone that idea? Of course, as we know, Mundell remained the lone Tory. (All I can say is, more people should have gone to the hustings to see the tongue-tied little squit stammer.)

What nobody thought of was that the Conservatives would end up in coalition, so they could give the job to one of the few remaining Scottish LibDems. Then give it to a different one when the first one was promoted....

Rolfe.
 
angrysoba said:
When he unveiled the government's new defence policy which included scrapping the aircraft carriers and Harriers, I thought, "Well what the Hell happens if, for some reason, Argentina decides to invade the Falkland's again?"
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Even without carriers et al we've still got enough equipment to effectively defend the Falklands - if the political will to use it is there.

Edit: On topic, my vote for biggest oaf goes to Osbourne. He effortlessly gives the impression that he has no idea what he's doing.

Edit again: Which at least is some evidence for a bit of self-awareness I suppse.
 
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andyandy said:
Which Tory Is The Biggest Moron?
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That's a difficult question. It's a bit like lining up a dozen bottles of water and asking which water is the wettest.

Can't help thinking that the average moron will be deeply offended at being compared to tories.
 
I'm not British, nor do I live in Britain, so maybe this is far off the mark, but I have been watching the Intelligence Squared debate between on one have Hitchens and Fry and on the other hand the Kenyan bishop and Ann Widdecombe, and she seems to be a vast waste of teaching someone to speak. Does she in any way qualify?
 
Kotatsu said:
I'm not British, nor do I live in Britain, so maybe this is far off the mark, but I have been watching the Intelligence Squared debate between on one have Hitchens and Fry and on the other hand the Kenyan bishop and Ann Widdecombe, and she seems to be a vast waste of teaching someone to speak. Does she in any way qualify?
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She's probably in with an outside chance, she's very intelligent but very unworldly; she's retired from politics now, though, seemingly forging a career in entertainment (Strictly Come Dancing, and now pantomime).
 
zooterkin said:
She's probably in with an outside chance, she's very intelligent but very unworldly; she's retired from politics now, though, seemingly forging a career in entertainment (Strictly Come Dancing, and now pantomime).
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Everytime I see Ann Widdecombe it seems she is telling someone that her virginity is not to be talked about. Even before they have raised the subject or even opened their mouths she wants to be clear that the subject of her virginity, her virginity that is, it is her virginity about which must not be talked.
 
andyandy said:
Ed's new economic plan - ape the Tories:

http://m.guardian.co.uk/politics/20...economic-redibility?cat=politics&type=article



Feel sorry for public sector workers - 2 years pay freeze with inflation at 5%, then 2 further years below inflation pay rises (a 2% rate prediction seems optimistic - but let's see....). That's going to be a 12-15% real wage cut - plus increased national insurance plus increased pensions contributions, plus lower pension returns. That's taking it to about 20% real wage reduction in a parliament.....wow.
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How is it paid for?
 
Lansley has to be in the frame for this. Repeating that healthcare professionals are behind the NHS bill (after the Tories categorically stated "no top down reorganisation of the NHS") after the RCN have come out and said "stop the bill now" is a lie. To compound it, he's now saying that the light side of the RCN (the one that works with government and gives bed baths to prominent cabinet members, I'd assume) has now been overthrown by the dark side of the RCN (the chippy militants that are giving payback for pension and pay cuts).

What a complete ******
 
angrysoba said:
Everytime I see Ann Widdecombe it seems she is telling someone that her virginity is not to be talked about. Even before they have raised the subject or even opened their mouths she wants to be clear that the subject of her virginity, her virginity that is, it is her virginity about which must not be talked.
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In Louis Theroux's series when he visited celebrities at their homes, she was the only one who would not let him take a peep at the bedroom.
 
Lansley. Got to be Lansley. Even his own party members say he should be "taken out and shot".
 
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