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Which is the only true religion?

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'...There are two kinds of religion: "I want something" religion and "Give to" religion.

"I want something"
religion means people want something - health, prosperity, peace, happiness, enlightenment, salvation, to go to heaven. Many kinds of wanting.

"Give to" religion means don't think about "my" situation. How can I help you? In "Give to" religion, you must put down your opinion, your condition, and your situation. Then you can realize your true nature. Just give to others whatever they need. Just do it!...'

ZM Seung Sahn
 
'...There are two kinds of religion: "I want something" religion and "Give to" religion.

"I want something"
religion means people want something - health, prosperity, peace, happiness, enlightenment, salvation, to go to heaven. Many kinds of wanting.

"Give to" religion means don't think about "my" situation. How can I help you? In "Give to" religion, you must put down your opinion, your condition, and your situation. Then you can realize your true nature. Just give to others whatever they need. Just do it!...'

ZM Seung Sahn

Just Do It!

Nike.
 
"How can I help? How can I help? How can I help? - this mind"
ZM SS

Nike wants something. Your money.
 
No religion, you mean "The wall is yellow."?

"Give, give, give. Always give"
Buddhist Teacher(SS)

Nike has certain value-gives shoes. So in this sense Nike is the only true religion.
 
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No religion, you mean "The wall is yellow."?

"Give, give, give. Always give"
Buddhist Teacher(SS)

Nike has certain value-gives shoes. So in this sense Nike is the only true religion.

No religion is no religion is no religion.

It is not "the wall is yellow", it is nothing. Nada, zero.

Are you a Buddhist? What is Nirvana? - Among other things it is not wanting anything, so giving you keep others from Nirvana.

Hans
 
Nirvana is helping others.

a Buddhist student

No, Nirvana is total satisfaction, having no needs. If you need to help others, you're not there.

In Buddhism, Nirvana is the state of perfect peace reached by not wanting more than you have. It means happiness and peace. It is every Buddhist's goal to achieve Nirvana. The Buddha described it as:
“the far shore, the subtle, the very difficult to see, the unaging, the stable, the undisintegrating, the unmanifest, the unproliferated, the peaceful, the deathless , the sublime, the auspicious, the secure, the destruction of craving, the wonderful, the amazing, the unailing, the unailing state, the unafflicted, dispassion, purity, freedom, the unadhesive, the island, the shelter, the asylum, the refuge...” (SN 43:14)

From here: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana

However, my point is to show how difficult perfection is to imagine. 'No religion' is perfect, flawless, craves nothing, needs nothing, freedom. It is a lot like Nirvana.

Hans
 
'...There are two kinds of religion: "I want something" religion and "Give to" religion.

"I want something"
religion means people want something - health, prosperity, peace, happiness, enlightenment, salvation, to go to heaven. Many kinds of wanting.

"Give to" religion means don't think about "my" situation. How can I help you? In "Give to" religion, you must put down your opinion, your condition, and your situation. Then you can realize your true nature. Just give to others whatever they need. Just do it!...'

ZM Seung Sahn

You're pretty much wrong here. Many Religions actually involve both: Giving to others and wanting something from their God. So this either/or dichotomy you present is false.
 
'...There are two kinds of religion: "I want something" religion and "Give to" religion.

"I want something" religion means people want something - health, prosperity, peace, happiness, enlightenment, salvation, to go to heaven. Many kinds of wanting.

"Give to" religion means don't think about "my" situation. How can I help you? In "Give to" religion, you must put down your opinion, your condition, and your situation. Then you can realize your true nature. Just give to others whatever they need. Just do it!...'

ZM Seung Sahn


And believing in such a giving religion, of course, he charged for training and enlightenment.

Oh, wait...
 
Of course. training is necessary before enlightenment! How do you want to pay off your debt, that is karma of your mistakes?
 
The question is wrong.

"What is a True Religion?" needs to be answered first.
 

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