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When is a terrorist, not a terrorist?

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Terrorists never have as much money as freedom fighters. That's how you can tell them apart.
 
gtc said:
Personally, I would classify anything as terrorism if it is done with the intent of creating 'terror'. Scaring doctors out of performing abortion seems to fit.
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Is Hank Paulson a terrorist?
 
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She also made a point of highlighting "innocent Americans." My thought was to ask, "Are doctors performing abortions innocent?"
 
Until a clarifying statement is made I'll assume she meant what she said: calling the bombing of abortion clinics terrorism is questionable at best; you know, in her opinion.

That's how one treats a fellow adult, one assumes they mean the things that they say. Something like "Bombing abortion clinics terrorism or not?" Is not the sort of question who's answer should need lots of special interpretation.

This woman is a monster, the sooner she is forced to retreat back up to the "state" of Alaska, the better.
 
boloboffin said:
She also made a point of highlighting "innocent Americans." My thought was to ask, "Are doctors performing abortions innocent?"
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She made it very clear that it was unacceptable to kill "innocent Americans" and avoid mentioning Eric Robert Rudolph. but boy! Did she ever keep up the attack on Ayers..who has never been convicted...as opposed to Rudolph, who has, and got a sweet plea bargain out of the Bush DoJ...er, Ayers is a terrorist, who bombed the Pentagon, now stop bothering me with that crap...
 
On the other side of the fence, has Obama ever called Ayers a terrorist? He better get that answer ready.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
On the other side of the fence, has Obama ever called Ayers a terrorist? He better get that answer ready.
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Obama is a lawyer. Ayers was never convicted of terrorism. It would be unbecoming of a lawyer to call someone a terrorist if they were arrested and not subsequently convicted.

Palin is not a lawyer. If she wants to pin labels on people, she needs to come up withj a definition that makes sense or be labelled as just another opinionated Republican poppinjay.
 
If abortion equals murder, why doesn't killing someone who dies in an abortion clinic bombing equal murder?
This question comes about, from hearing interviews with bombers who get caught by the police. While some might regret people dying from their handiwork, many aren't remorseful, actually seeming to be proud that they've "made a point" by having people die in the explosion. Many people (including people of religion) see ANY ending of what they consider a human life by another human, murder. Quite a few of the aforementioned religious believers don't have a problem with blowing up the building (as long as people aren't hurt). BUT, there are those who actually applaud such things, claiming "That's one less murdering doctor around", or some such.

Deliberately destroying or attacking an office, car, home, or any other structure or area, that will result in people being hurt or killed (even if that's not the objective of the assailant), for the purpose of 'expressing your personal or religious beliefs, IS 'Terrorism', as far as some people (myself included) are concerned.

Yes, I know this argument probably has flaws; but, it's still the basis of how I feel concerning this subject Palin's been asked about.
 
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Undesired Walrus said:
On the other side of the fence, has Obama ever called Ayers a terrorist? He better get that answer ready.
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Well, in contrary to McCain and Palin, Obama isn't calling anyone a terrorist. So it's pretty normal they haven't been asked about semantics like that.
 
XBoxWarrior said:
Not really. But that's not the point.

She thinks it's NOT terrorism to bomb abortion clinics...
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How many have been bombed, in the past thirty years?

In the past thirty days?

Are you sure you can read her mind?

I had a girlfriend once that had an abortion, if that clinic had been bombed, I would have said, "Yeah, some freekin' terrorist just bombed the clinic".
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You might also have said "some effing criminal just bombed the clinic" and been guaranteed to be correct. You might also have said "some effing whacko just bombed the clinic" and likely been correct.
She can't admit that without losing the racist, jesus vote.

I paid for an abortion once. It was at a regular medical clinic.
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How was Jesus racist? Do you have some anti-Semitism thing here?
I soon hope that American politics learns that hate can't win elections, Hope can.
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No, votes can and do.

Hope is not a method, particularly in elections. Obama wants people to vote for him, not Hope for him. Likewise his opponent.

DR
 
Darth Rotor said:
How many have been bombed, in the past thirty years?

In the past thirty days?

Are you sure you can read her mind?
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Wikipedia:
Arson, bombing, and property crime

According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").[8] The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.[13] More recent incidents have included:[5]

  • October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.
  • May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire on resulted in damage estimated at US$20,000.
  • October 1, 2000: A Catholic priest drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being shot at by a security guard.
  • June 11, 2001: A bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington on destroyed a wall, resulting in US$6000 in damages
  • July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson.
  • December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year.
  • September 13, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and then started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions, however Edgerton is not an abortion clinc.[14]
  • April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device.[15]
  • May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.[16]
  • December 6, 2007: Two unidentified persons set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Albuquerque, New Mexico.[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion-related_violence#Arson.2C_bombing.2C_and_property_crime
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I remember hearing from a friend who kept up on intelligence matters that prior to 2001, anti-abortion terror networks were the #1 threat according to the FBI... Got this 2nd hand but the stats above would indicate they were more than just a few loose screws.

Fact is, under ANY Democratic president this threat would increase... Under Bush they've been lulled to sleep I'm sure. I wonder what kind of "chatter" there might be about what to do when Obama takes over?
 
leftysergeant said:
Obama is a lawyer. Ayers was never convicted of terrorism. It would be unbecoming of a lawyer to call someone a terrorist if they were arrested and not subsequently convicted.
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Who you crappin lefty? In Ayers own words "gulty as hell, free as a bird". He got off on a technicality and was pardoned. He admitted a string of bombings!

If conviction is your metric, Osama bin Laden isn't a terrorist either.
 
WildCat said:
Who you crappin lefty? In Ayers own words "gulty as hell, free as a bird". He got off on a technicality and was pardoned. He admitted a string of bombings!

If conviction is your metric, Osama bin Laden isn't a terrorist either.
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Nice to know that the Fourth Amendment is a technicality. Maybe if the FBI did not act in illegal manner (whom no one got fired for or charged with) he would be behind bars.
 
leftysergeant said:
When did he stand trial?
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Osama? Never. I guess he's not a terrorist after all. :rolleyes:

I know you want to stand in solidarity with your fellow Marxist, but the fact is he was a terrorist and he has admitted a string of bombings.

TheJim said:
Nice to know that the Fourth Amendment is a technicality. Maybe if the FBI did not act in illegal manner (whom no one got fired for or charged with) he would be behind bars.
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It is a technicality, that doesn't mean it's trivial. And with what would the FBI agents be charged with? Evidence gets thrown out of court all the time, it doesn't mean the police acted criminally.
 
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