When Did Sex Become A "Sin"

Beerina said:
What part about "kill the gay men" is not just ambiguous, but very ambiguous to him?
I conjecture that he was referring to the New Testament texts which don't say 'kill the gay men', as Christians, the Apostles decided, do not need to follow the Jewish Law.
 
Mr Clingford said:
I conjecture that he was referring to the New Testament texts which don't say 'kill the gay men', as Christians, the Apostles decided, do not need to follow the Jewish Law.

And again, this is why we consider the Archbishop to be anything but on the fringe of Christianity.

OK, so the Archbishop thinks the Apostles have established that Christians don't need to follow Jewish Law. If he agrees with that, then sure, he can justify a claim that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.

But exactly how many christians actually accept the claim that they don't need to follow the Jewish Law? For example, I'm assuming, then, that the Archbishop doesn't think the 10 Commandments are binding? They are just Jewish law.
 
pgwenthold said:
But exactly how many christians actually accept the claim that they don't need to follow the Jewish Law?
All of them - how many Christians are circumcised on the 8th day?
pgwenthold said:
For example, I'm assuming, then, that the Archbishop doesn't think the 10 Commandments are binding? They are just Jewish law.
Correct, they are not binding, they are good guidelines.
 
Mark A. Siefert said:
Whether or not Christians NEED to be anti-sex is a moot point, the reality is that most of them are.
If most Christians were truly "anti-sex", I suspect we'd find far fewer Christians in the world.

It is as implausible to describe the majority of Christians as "anti-sex" as it is to describe the majority of pro-choicers as "pro-abortion". It's a very crude and fundamentally misleading characterization.
 
ceo_esq said:
If most Christians were truly "anti-sex", I suspect we'd find far fewer Christians in the world.

It is as implausible to describe the majority of Christians as "anti-sex" as it is to describe the majority of pro-choicers as "pro-abortion". It's a very crude and fundamentally misleading characterization.
No, it's not implausible or even crude. Misleading? Only a little bit; I'd call it oversimplified.

If my 25 cents worth of anthropological reading serves me, societies can be characterized as "sex-negative" or "sex-positive" depending on how they view sexual activity. At one end of the scale we have Polynesia, the most sex-positive cultural group known (well, known to anthropologists). At the other end of the scale, some place Ireland, specifically the village societies of the west, where, supposedly, a majority of husbands and wives never see each other naked.

The sex negative-positive scale isn't meant to measure the actual amount of wimbo-wambo going on in a society, of course, but only to characterize the attitudes toward sex a particular group holds. But I don't think you'll see as much rogering in a sex-negative society as in others, simply because opportunities for nookie are curtailed by a lack of acceptance.

The Western world has been Christianized for most of two millennia, and Western societies are pretty uniformly grouped toward the sex-negative end of the scale, as far as I can see. (Our Danish contingent will speak up about now, exclaiming over how positive Danish attitudes toward sex are. Maybe so, but I'd like to hear it from an outsider.) Who can deny that across most of Christendom sex is nasty?
 
sackett said:
Who can deny that across most of Christendom sex is nasty?

That's why St Paul coined the term "doin' the nasty".

Corinthians IV, 8-10:

And going into the village, he did play the pimp, displaying much bling bling. This was favorable in the eyes of God and the women, and they did much nasty therein, and it was good.

He uttered unto them that he would call them the next day, but he didn't, having taken unto himself a skank.
 
Stop! That's nasty!

The doctrinist with his sources at hand says reasonably, "Sex is endorsed by the Church as a basic human experience -"

The grunt believer in the trenches bellows, "Nyah, dat ain't what Fodder Shaddupski tole us in Caddy-kism class! You callin' da Fodder a liar?"

Guess who has my sympathies.

None of this explains why sex became nasty in the Western world.
 

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