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When CongressCritters Attack!

thaiboxerken said:
I didn't hear the kid say that. Plus, it's easy enough to get a person's grip off of your wrist. It's easy to stop someone from grabbing your neck as well.
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I heard something like "Let me go please" at one point. The point is not how easy it is to stop someone from grabbing you. Just look up the meanings of "assault" and "battery". This was not "aggravated", but there was definitely an assault and a battery. If anyone doubts this, you risk being arrested if you get too animated with someone who does not appreciate your grabbing him.

I don't believe the kid even needs to file charges. "Spouse" abuse of any kind results in an arrest, even if the wife pleads with cops not to arrest the hubby.




The video clearly shows the commission of a felony. Why is this congressman not in jail? Get beyond the politics of it. It was a crime!


ETA: OK I'll do it.
assault legal definition

  1. In criminal and tort law, an act, usually consisting of a threat or attempt to inflict bodily injury upon another person, coupled with the apparent present ability to succeed in carrying out the threat or the attempt if not prevented, that causes the person to have a reasonable fear or apprehension of immediate harmful or offensive contact. No intent to cause battery or the fear or apprehension is required so long as the victim is placed in reasonable apprehension or fear. No actual physical injury is needed to establish an assault, but if there is any physical contact, the act constitutes both an assault and a battery.
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No need for injury. He moved the kid. This is close to kidnapping, and is obviously unlawful restraint. This is very surprising that anyone is defending these actions.

No actual physical injury is needed to establish an assault, but if there is any physical contact, the act constitutes both an assault and a battery.
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No offense meant, but some folks just don't know the law.
http://www.yourdictionary.com/law/assault
 
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thaiboxerken said:
I didn't hear the kid say that.
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Watch it again then. He clearly says "please let go of me sir..."

Plus, it's easy enough to get a person's grip off of your wrist. It's easy to stop someone from grabbing your neck as well.
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It's also "easy" to not be a victim of identity theft. Does that mean it's okay to steal identities?
 
I do have to admit that I love the term "teatrash."

You do have a poetic way of speaking, even if you're illogical and wrong all the time.
 
It's plain to see what happened. Those two kids where in truth, Shape Shifting Reptilians!!!
He must have saw there eye's shift for a sec, thus the reason he kept asking "Who are you"
As everyone knows Reptilians are always teabaggers and republicans. so he was just trying to expose those evil and malicious aliens for what they are:rolleyes:
 
If that is the law, then the guy should be reprimanded by law enforcement. I think being charged with a felony is a bit harsh since there was no harm or injury, or even an attempt to injure. Doesn't assault and battery have to have intent to injure?
 
So you've never been pulled over for speeding, but let off with just a warning?
 
thaiboxerken said:
If that is the law, then the guy should be reprimanded by law enforcement. I think being charged with a felony is a bit harsh since there was no harm or injury, or even an attempt to injure. Doesn't assault and battery have to have intent to injure?
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Ken, why is it so difficult to understand? Why is this guy not in jail? Assault can be a mere verbal threat, "I'm going to kick your butt". When you touch the guy,it becomes assault and battery. Nowhere does it say, as long as the guy is an asshat or a republican, you get to grab him and threaten him.

I don't want to be a part of any group that claims the right to violence unless some sort of self defense is involved. This kid looked about 120 lbs, a scared non violent twerp. If he had been a 250 lb body builder, he could have legally wiped up the street with Etheridge.

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assault legal definition

  1. In criminal and tort law, an act, usually consisting of a threat or attempt to inflict bodily injury upon another person, coupled with the apparent present ability to succeed in carrying out the threat or the attempt if not prevented, that causes the person to have a reasonable fear or apprehension of immediate harmful or offensive contact. No intent to cause battery or the fear or apprehension is required so long as the victim is placed in reasonable apprehension or fear. No actual physical injury is needed to establish an assault, but if there is any physical contact, the act constitutes both an assault and a battery.
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thaiboxerken said:
So you've never been pulled over for speeding, but let off with just a warning?
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Speeding is not a felony, until you try to outrun the cops. A cop would be fired if he gave a warning for a felony.

I just thought of something when I saw your name "thaiboxer-ken"
A good drinking buddy in college used to make a sport of luring some big guy out of bar and letting him have the first punch...''go ahead tough guy, give me your best shot". Usually to the face, bloodied his nose. My friend, a black belt in something like karate as I recall, just took great pleasure in turning around, as if he was crying, then proceeded to break the guy's jaw with one kick. Game over. My friend was a real nut, but legally, he was using self defense.
 
Originally Posted by Olowkow
The video clearly shows the commission of a felony. Why is this congressman not in jail?


Olowkow: Get beyond the politics of it. It was a crime!
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Leftysergeant: Back at you.
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OK, my first reaction when I saw the video was to Google Etheridge to see where he was from, and I admit, to kind of verify that it must be another freaking republican. I saw that he was a democrat, and my heart sank. Bummer, we don't need idiots like him on our side. He had that hateful odd dead look in his eyes like Boehner or Allen, the "macaca" guy, and some other right wing nutcases. I flirted with the idea of somehow finding a defense for him for about 2 seconds, and then felt outrage. Why can a congressman do this but if I did it, I'd be in jail?

OH, and in case you need more bona fides, I voted for Obama, used to donate to NPR until they got too conservative, I'm an aging left wing skeptical atheist existentialist hippy type who bristles at the antics of jerky politicians... no matter what their affiliation. I eat meat too.

ETA: I have no clue as to the political beliefs of this Ethridge dude.
 
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It's hard to have any sympathy for anyone in the video. On the one hand, Etheridge strikes me as about half crazy and moderately dangerous. On the other hand, the two students are sufficiently full of themselves that they feel it's perfectly appropriate to stick a camera in the face of someone on a public sidewalk. Why do they think they are so important?

I feel sorry for celebrities and politicians in our society.
 
leftysergeant said:
You have no legal right to require it as a condition of my participation here.
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And Etheridge had no legal right to require it at all.

He has the legal right to require that of the punk before he answers a question on the record.
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Nobody disputes that Etheridge had the right to refuse to answer a question for any reason at all. Everyone knows that. That was never the problem. Your continued insistence on an irrelevant point no one debates is an indication of the weakness of your position.

When Etheridge grabbed the punk, he was thrusting the camera right in Etheridge's face. Totally wrong and intimidating.
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Boo friggin hoo. So tell me again why Etheridge, being so intimidated by these guys, decided to assault them rather than walk away?

No excuses. You put something right in my face, you're going to lose it and the law will do nothing to me.
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Nobody here takes your opinion of the law seriously. Your grasp of the obvious is tenuous enough.
 
Ziggurat said:
Boo friggin hoo. So tell me again why Etheridge, being so intimidated by these guys, decided to assault them rather than walk away?
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People can get a little bit goofy when their personal space is violated. I would expect better from a Congressman, but I can see someone getting a bit bent out of shape by the way the students were acting. There's a natural, rather primitive, reaction when a person's hand rapidly approaches another person's face. It isn't odd that it triggered a brief "fight or flight" response. The weird thing was that he didn't calm down right away and went on with his "Who are you?" schtick. It kind of gave me the creeps.
 
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