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Whats wrong with Ron Paul?

Oliver said:
Huh? :confused:
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Sorry Oliver, I missed your reply when I read back over the thread.

Paul believes that prayer in public schools should not be prohibited at the federal or state level, nor should it be made compulsory to engage in.[91][92] He rejects the notion of "separation of Church and state", instead seeing the issue as "free exercise of religion" and "no establishment of religion". He argues that churches give people a moral base that government cannot provide. He also argues this leads to a more orderly people who have less need for the government to actively seek to control them. He opposes efforts to force religion out of the public sphere.[93]

In 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act, which would have removed "any claim involving the laws, regulations, or policies of any State or unit of local government relating to the free exercise or establishment of religion" from the jurisdiction of federal courts.[94] If made law, this provision would purportedly permit state, county, and local governments to decide whether to allow displays of religious text and imagery, but would not interfere with the application of relevant federal law.[citation needed]

Paul has sponsored a constitutional amendment which would allow students to pray privately in public schools, but would not allow anyone to be forced to pray against their will or allow the state to compose any type of prayer or officially sanction any prayer to be said in schools.[95]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul
 
The essential problem with libertarians / ancaps for me is that they want to rigorously enforce private property rights, which entrenches the wealth of those that have. While denying those who aren't as well of the right to social welfare, paid for by taxing the wealthy.

In our current system we have a balance between use of "violence" as they like to term it on both sides.

For comparison, I would claim that no violence on either side would be a social anarchist idea of a society. Violence on behalf of the state (taxation) and no private property rights would be something like communism.
 
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madfoot said:
Am I a bad atheist if I don't care if students pray in public schools?
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As long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in school.

Seriously, no atheists care if there is prayer in school. What they don't wan't is school-sponsored prayer to only selected deities. So are you okay with school-sponsored prayer? To which deities? Could it be SATAN??!!!
 
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Democracy Simulator said:
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The real danger comes from not having a presidential candidate that will bring up some of the issues that Ron Paul will bring up....
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This part I agree with. Both Romney and Obama are largely captors of the status quo so having a contrarian voice in the race/debates/campaign would at least open up the discussion a bit.

I am reminded of a debate that Alan Keyes was a part of. Keyes, of course, is even more loony than Paul but in one race he was in there was a controversy about whether China should have been allowed in the WTO. Keyes said that was not the important question but rather the debate should be about whether the USA should be part of the WTO. That is the kind of different perspective that will be missing from our Romney/Obama contest.
 
Russian times RT. I was reading over there that Ron Paul said that president Bush was cackling with glee over 9/11 because he now had a green light to invade Iraq. Disclaimer. I dont know if Ron Paul really said that.
 
Bill, there's three "it" words in your OP. That makes the OP kinda hard to read. Please restate your view in some other words. Thanks.
 
Tricky said:
As long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in school.

Seriously, no atheists care if there is prayer in school. What they don't wan't is school-sponsored prayer to only selected deities. So are you okay with school-sponsored prayer? To which deities? Could it be SATAN??!!!
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Ron Paul hasn't sponsored any laws that would allow school-sponsored prayer. The amendment he proposed (according to Wikipedia) just allows students to privately pray, without being coerced not to, and doesn't allow other students to be coerced into praying. At best, it's redundant, although I don't know how far school prayer policy goes one way or the other to say for sure.
 
It's his idea of legalizing alternative medicine that scares me.
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Tea Party Audience Cheers Letting The Uninsured Die
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
What does that even mean? If government (we the people) isn't fit to write these safety rules, who is?
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Who needs safety regulations? After enough people get killed, the survivors will figure out that they need to stop doing business with that company and it will go out of business.
 
TellyKNeasuss said:
Who needs safety regulations? After enough people get killed, the survivors will figure out that they need to stop doing business with that company and it will go out of business.
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Right. That's why there are no sweatshops anywhere in the world, and that's why mistreatment and exploitation of child labor went away without government intervention. The invisible hand of the market took care of all of that for us. (Ditto environmental protections, stewardship of our natural resources, etc.)

:rolleyes:
 
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