What will Iran bomb first?

What place will Iran bomb first as retaliation?

  • Haifa

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  • Beer Sheva

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  • Eilat

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  • America

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In the face of a foreign power sending militia groups out to strongarm government factions, pouring vast amounts of money into an impoverished nation to conduct bribes, and spreading huge amounts of disinformation throughout the press? Grow up.

Mossadegh was returned to office in 1952 because of violence committed on his behalf by street gangs, before the US even considered helping to remove him. I understand how hard it must be for you to not lionize someone you see as a victim of the CIA, but whatever the faults of our involvement, he was no democrat. He was a man with a will to power, nothing more.
 

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West Berlin

Hey! :mad:

Sorry, East Berlin.

Better. ;)

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Breach of Rule 10 removed.

He didn't say that word in that context, did he?
My, for some reason I knew this thread would be worth the read!

Oh goody, now he's talking in 'regimes'. FireGarden as well.
And Oliver still claims those photos are manipulated.

We have some very.. special people on here. Keep it up!
Sweet, sweet denial must be kissing them good night.


Stay on AJAX, haven't heard enough of that here I think. :D
 
Mossadegh was returned to office in 1952 because of violence committed on his behalf by street gangs, before the US even considered helping to remove him. I understand how hard it must be for you to not lionize someone you see as a victim of the CIA, but whatever the faults of our involvement, he was no democrat. He was a man with a will to power, nothing more.
By which you once again firmly establish your cluelessness on the matter. Mossadegh resigned of his own free will. He was returned to power because of massive protests by literally all of the major Iranian political parties once Qavam (his successor) announced he would give in to the British, who were very unpopular as a result of doing things like refusing to allow disbursement of Iranian funds in British banks or, say, having established a huge naval blockade against Iranian oil exports. (Otherwise known as the Abadan crisis).

Amongst the leaders of these protests were figures such as Ayatollah Khashani (mentor to Khomeini), who would later turn against Mossadegh because of overly secular reforms and a copious infusion of US dollars.
 
By which you once again firmly establish your cluelessness on the matter. Mossadegh resigned of his own free will.

Because he demanded more power and and the shah wouldn't give it to him. He essentially wanted to force a crisis, and he did. The subsequent protests forced the Shah to not only reappoint Mossadegh, but to give him the power he had demanded. And he didn't stop there. Mossadegh had an ever-increasing demand for more and more powers. As I said, he was no hero, nor was he a democrat. He was an authoritarian who took advantage of democratic institutions to get the power he wanted.
 
Because he demanded more power and and the shah wouldn't give it to him. He essentially wanted to force a crisis, and he did. The subsequent protests forced the Shah to not only reappoint Mossadegh, but to give him the power he had demanded. And he didn't stop there. Mossadegh had an ever-increasing demand for more and more powers. As I said, he was no hero, nor was he a democrat. He was an authoritarian who took advantage of democratic institutions to get the power he wanted.

:rolleyes:
Mossadegh demanded the ability to appoint the War Minister, a horrible ghastly power possessed by the majority of western leaders. In response to a genuine crisis. The horror! A democratically elected official insisting that a non-elected, hereditary monarch make republican reforms.
 
:rolleyes:
Mossadegh demanded the ability to appoint the War Minister, a horrible ghastly power possessed by the majority of western leaders. In response to a genuine crisis. The horror! A democratically elected official insisting that a non-elected, hereditary monarch make republican reforms.

And did it stop there? No, it didn't. Not by a long shot. Executive power to create laws, non-secret ballot elections, those are not the acts of someone trying to defend and extend democracy.
 
Back to the OP:

Former Iranian defense minister gives us some clues
about what will happen in case of an Israeli attack...



'War on Iran to spell Israel's collapse'


- Former Iranian defense minister says an Israeli attack on Iran would result in Palestinian victory over Israel in the occupied lands.

- Referring to the 2006 Israeli war on Lebanon, Shamkhani said, "Iran would definitely deliver a more devastating blow to Israel than that of Hezbollah."

- The former Iranian defense minister said Iran's crushing response to Israel, in case of an attack, would help ensure the return of the occupied territories to Palestinians.

Full Story: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=72643&sectionid=351020101


 
Former Iranian defense minister gives us some clues about what will happen in case of an Israeli attack...
?

Is there something unexpected by the rhetoric? What is the point of pointing it out ad nauseam? Yes, we know, Iran is beating the war drums with provacative and polemic rhetoric and promises to destroy Israel. We've been talking about this for years. We get it.

Tell us something we don't know.
 
Yes, we know, Iran is beating the war drums with provacative and polemic rhetoric and promises to destroy Israel. We've been talking about this for years. We get it.

Tell us something we don't know.

Randfan,
Did you notice the phrases: "an Israeli attack on Iran would result in" and "Iran's crushing response to Israel, in case of an attack,"

And decide not to acknowledge them in writing? Or did you miss them entirely?

And LOL.
Promises to respond to an attack by destroying the attacker is beating the war drums. There was a time when it would be considered as a deterrent -- ie: an attempt to avoid war.
 
And there is more from an Iranian Army commander ...


Iran promises no mercy against aggressor

Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:53:06 GMT

"Mistake can be rectified but the launch of an invasion of Iran would be an irreversible error that we will respond to until their collapse," said top Iranian Army commander, Major General Ataollah Salehi. :boxedin: *snip*

"Enemy threats considering their military power are serious, but we also possess military power," declared the Iranian commander regarding recent threats.
*snip*

Full Article: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=72643&sectionid=351020101
 
I see Oliver has openly assumed his position as the Iranian Forum Propaganda Minister.
No surprise here!
 
And did it stop there? No, it didn't. Not by a long shot. Executive power to create laws, non-secret ballot elections, those are not the acts of someone trying to defend and extend democracy.
Those are the actions of a nation in crisis with a government unable to effectively respond. Powers which were 1) democratically granted by a broad, popular coalition, 2) included exact expiration dates, 3) were given in a valid emergency, and 4) were surpassed by what the Shah took for himself as a direct consquence of US and British action. Mossadegh did show some heavy-handedness at the end (e.g. disbanded the then-present Majlis), but this was AFTER the joint intelligence forces had begun suborning the Iranian government or, in the case of the example given, had already attempted the initial, unsuccessful coup.
 
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You gotta love Fox and their Anti-Iran agenda. Why do they
hate Iran getting a defense system - and Russia for providing
it? Double standards, as usual...

 
And there is more from an Iranian Army commander ...


Appeal to an alleged authority is noted, as well as a complete miss of what information warfare is.

Oliver, just because a guy in Iran says something does not make it so. The issue of future predictions, and being a blowhard, is a very inexact science.

Or didn't you know that?
 
You gotta love Fox and their Anti-Iran agenda. Why do they
hate Iran getting a defense system - and Russia for providing
it? Double standards, as usual...


I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being the crisis to which Biden referred.
 
Appeal to an alleged authority is noted, as well as a complete miss of what information warfare is.

Oliver, just because a guy in Iran says something does not make it so. The issue of future predictions, and being a blowhard, is a very inexact science.

Or didn't you know that?


Yes, I completely agree. My initial point, however, was to make it
absolutely clear that there will be retaliation in one way or another,
because I intended to let those people, who are in favor for an attack,
know that there is a price-tag to it.
 
Freemasons, disabled and mentally ill people, homosexuals, jews? Oh no wait Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says that jehovah's witnesses are infidels and Adolf Hitler was a hero and that holocaust never happend and is a myth and was invented by zionist jews like Henry Kissinger and The Rothschild family. Ahmadinejad is anti-NWO upps anti-zionist so many people probaly support a lunatic like Ahmadinejad.
 

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