What other architects think of Gage's nuttery

[Lenbrazil]

RIBA comes under fire for hosting ‘bonkers’ 9/11 talk
24 June 2011 | By Will Hurst, David Rogers


Institute reviews policy after controversial event booked by Zaha Hadid Architects associate


The RIBA is reviewing its policy on hiring out 66 Portland Place following a storm of criticism over its hosting of a group claiming that New York’s Twin Towers were brought down through a controlled explosion.

Leading architects on both sides of the Atlantic hit out at the institute this week after American architect Richard Gage, part of the group Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, delivered a lecture at RIBA HQ on Monday night


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Director of the American Institute of Architects’ New York chapter Rick Bell, who witnessed 9/11, expressed surprise at the event and said “no amount of money” would persuade him to allow the group to talk at his headquarters.

“The professional community discredits this guy,” he said. “We rent to just about anybody but if this guy came to me I’d say we don’t want your money, we don’t want you in our building.
“You have to draw the line somewhere… Not for any amount of money would we have that talk in our space. It gives it a credibility that it doesn’t deserve.”

KPF chairman Gene Kohn, who was the AIA’s spokesman in the aftermath of the attacks, called Gage’s theories “ridiculous”.


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http://www.bdonline.co.uk/news/riba-comes-under-fire-for-hosting-‘bonkers’-9/11-talk/5020382.article

For some reason this was covered by 9/11 Blogger
http://911blogger.com/news/2011-06-...nstitute-british-architects-ignites-firestorm

 

[leftysergeant]

For some reason this was covered by 9/11 Blogger
http://911blogger.com/news/2011-06-...nstitute-british-architects-ignites-firestorm

Well, DUH! If you are right, the Establishment is going to gang up on you.

 

[fitzgibbon]

Personally, I'd lay good Canadian money that this Rick Bell character is in on it too. /woo

 

[rubber_ritchie]

Was happy to read this. I complained to them before the event but to no avail. The 911 Tit movement seems to be at the stage of a dying insect on his back, barely moving but still the occasional twitch. Seems like his European tour received near to no press. You'd expect to see him on all the chat shows but thankfully not.

 

[NoZed Avenger]

The 911 Tit movement . . . .

Oh. Er. . .











Do you have any links?

 

[NoahFence]

Too funny

 

[WildCat]

Seems like his European tour received near to no press.

You're assuming the purpose was to get press attention, as opposed to Gage getting a free European vacation financed by the suckers he has conned.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Kind of funny how they all take it as nothing but insults... Gage has a genuine condition of chronic ineducation or crackpottery. Considering that I find RIBA's response to the controversy perfectly justified.

 

[Macgyver1968]

From the 9/11 blogger article:

But Gage said it was unfair of critics to attack his organisation without looking at its evidence, which he claims is supported by 1,500 people in both disciplines.

“Architects and engineers have willfully ignored the message that we’ve been speaking about for five years,” he said. “When is the RIBA going to take this seriously?

“It is extremely important that we understand exactly what happened on 9/11… the implications of the demolition of the Twin Towers are very disturbing – I’m not denying that – but to refuse to look at the evidence because it has dark implications is ignorance.”

This seems to be a common misconception by truthers. Anyone disagreeing with them must have not heard the evidence yet. To them, anyone who examines their evidence will surely come to the same conclusions as them. It's impossible for them to consider that someone could look at their evidence, and consider it just wrong.

 

[Oystein]

You're assuming the purpose was to get press attention, as opposed to Gage getting a free European vacation financed by the suckers he has conned.

He is in Holland right now. Weather sucks today.

 

[Hokulele]

From the 9/11 blogger article:

Which is hysterically hypocritical coming from Gage, who has indicated that R.Mackey's paper is rubbish while also stating that he will never read it.

 

[Dave Rogers]

RIBA comes under fire for hosting ‘bonkers’ 9/11 talk
24 June 2011 | By Will Hurst, David Rogers
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Oh, dear. Whoever he is, Tony Szamboti thinks he's me, probably won't believe it if I say he isn't, and can now find out his e-mail address from the BPONLINE website. This could be entertaining, though not for my namesake.

I wonder if the co-author of this article is the same as the Dave Rogers who frequents the JREF Forum and is vehemently opposed for some reason to any new investigation of the events which occurred in NYC on Sept. 11, 2001.

Tony, I'm opposed to investigating it because it's a stupid idea. And incidentally, the seven things you listed as certainly not being bonkers are all, in fact, bonkers, because every one of them is based on an obvious complex question fallacy.

Dave

 

[angrysoba]

Oh, dear. Whoever he is, Tony Szamboti thinks he's me, probably won't believe it if I say he isn't, and can now find out his e-mail address from the BPONLINE website. This could be entertaining, though not for my namesake.



Tony, I'm opposed to investigating it because it's a stupid idea. And incidentally, the seven things you listed as certainly not being bonkers are all, in fact, bonkers, because every one of them is based on an obvious complex question fallacy.

Dave

To be fair, I saw the name and also thought it might have been you. Of course, in my case it was simple idle musing rather than feverish swivel-eyed conspiracizing.

 

[Horatius]

To be fair, I saw the name and also thought it might have been you. Of course, in my case it was simple idle musing rather than feverish swivel-eyed conspiracizing.

Perhaps they should start a group: Guys Named David Rogers Who Think 9/11 Truth is Bollocks.

 

[1337m4n]

For years Truthers have been defending Gage and AE911 saying "Oh yeah well, where's the 1000 professional architects & engineers who DISAGREE with us, huh???"

And now that THIS has happened, well...I mean, just look at the comments section on the 911blogger article. The Truthers are all basically just plugging their ears and going LALALALALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOUUUUUUUUUUUU LALALALALALALALA. They aren't even attempting their usual cries of "SHILL! AGENT! PAID-OFF!" because, on some subconscious level deep deep down, even they are starting to realize how silly it is to implicate every single person who disagrees with you into the conspiracy.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Oh, dear. Whoever he is, Tony Szamboti thinks he's me, probably won't believe it if I say he isn't, and can now find out his e-mail address from the BPONLINE website. This could be entertaining, though not for my namesake

This seems to happen quite a lot. They think you're someone you're not...

 

[Sunstealer]

Oh. Er. . .











Do you have any links?

It's a bit like the 9/11 "truthers without any tutoring" movement.

 

[sophia8]

Anyone disagreeing with them must have not heard the evidence yet. To them, anyone who examines their evidence will surely come to the same conclusions as them. It's impossible for them to consider that someone could look at their evidence, and consider it just wrong.

It's like a secular version of a Jack Chick strip: "You mean this Jesus guy died for our sins? And the Bible is the direct word of God? OMG, why did nobody ever tell me this before???"

 

[Gaspode]

Off-topic posts moved to AAH.

Back on topic please.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Gaspode

 

[Architect]

If you look at the BD comments sheet, I'd say he's getting a bit of a well deserved drubbing.

Interestingly groups like the RIBA linkedin forums are ignoring it completely AFAIK. Nice to see he made such an impression.