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What Makes for an Effective Moderator?

Fnord

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On another website, a moderator chose to step down due to increased family and job obligations. I would like to be considered as a replacement. This raises some questions...

Q1: I have heard that to ask for any moderator position on any website would actually hurt my chances. How much truth is there to this?

Q2: What moderator-related qualifications would likely be desired?

Q3: What personality traits would enhance a moderator's effectiveness?

Q4: What personality traits would reduce a moderator's effectiveness?

Q5: What is the "One Big No-No" that every moderator should avoid?

I would especially like to see replies from current JREF Admins and Mods, but past mods and mods from other websites are also welcome to reply.

Thank you.
 
According to a secret communique I was privy to:

A desire to crush spirits and an extremely maniacal laugh.

Extra consideration was given for those who could twirl their mustache while throwing old ladies out of their homes in winter.
 
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Q1: I have heard that to ask for any moderator position on any website would actually hurt my chances. How much truth is there to this?
I don't think this is true here, nor on another board I was a moderator on (now defunct). But I think it would vary depending on the particular board.

Q2: What moderator-related qualifications would likely be desired?
You should be a regular and reliable user of the board. Nothing is worse than an absentee moderator.

Q3: What personality traits would enhance a moderator's effectiveness?
Infinite patience and a thick skin.

Q4: What personality traits would reduce a moderator's effectiveness?
A temper. Impulsiveness.

Q5: What is the "One Big No-No" that every moderator should avoid?
Impulsiveness. Always think carefully before taking any action.
 
I suggest you send a short PM to the admin, putting your name forward. You can list a few of your relevant good qualities. Do not start a thread about the issue at that forum.
 
Q1: I have heard that to ask for any moderator position on any website would actually hurt my chances. How much truth is there to this?

Not here, since you have to volunteer, to be considered.

Q2: What moderator-related qualifications would likely be desired?

Q3: What personality traits would enhance a moderator's effectiveness?

I'll answer both of these together. Level-headed and reasonable, having plenty of spare time. Not too big an ego. Patience of a saint. Able to keep to the rules yourself.

Q4: What personality traits would reduce a moderator's effectiveness?

Quick temper/flying off the handle. Indecisiveness.

Q5: What is the "One Big No-No" that every moderator should avoid?

Being really annoying. ;)
 
I'll concur with the others, but add "even-handedness" as a key trait and the lack thereof as a potentially fatal flaw. For example, if:

Someone that everyone likes and respects is being a jerk towards someone else who totally deserves it

. . . you have to see it as:

Someone that everyone likes and respects is being a jerk towards someone else who totally deserves it

I'm bringing it up because it would be tough for me. There are some posters who wear me down, and I get pretty frustrated with them, and after a while . . . it would be difficult to keep my objectivity. Especially if I'd have to respond quickly.
 
I'll concur with the others, but add "even-handedness" as a key trait and the lack thereof as a potentially fatal flaw. For example, if:

Someone that everyone likes and respects is being a jerk towards someone else who totally deserves it

. . . you have to see it as:

Someone that everyone likes and respects is being a jerk towards someone else who totally deserves it

I'm bringing it up because it would be tough for me. There are some posters who wear me down, and I get pretty frustrated with them, and after a while . . . it would be difficult to keep my objectivity. Especially if I'd have to respond quickly.

Agree here. It's definitely bad news for a forum when a mod pounces on the slightest deviation from rules (especially the unwritten ones) by some posters while giving other passes on much bigger violations of the same policy.

Also helps if mods can refrain from dogpiling the same poster with multiple reprimands for the same post.
 
Well, I'm a moderator now (not on JREF). I asked for advice from the other mods, and they said things like: "Don't Panic!", "Run ... run far ... run fast" and "How sweet ... fresh meat!"

However, most of the real advice was along the lines of: "Be the invisible iron hand in the unseen velvet glove".

:D
 
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I'll concur with the others, but add "even-handedness" as a key trait and the lack thereof as a potentially fatal flaw. For example, if:

Someone that everyone likes and respects is being a jerk towards someone else who totally deserves it

. . . you have to see it as:

Someone that everyone likes and respects is being a jerk towards someone else who totally deserves it
....
The mods in this forum have for the most part been fair, which sadly meant a couple of valued popular forum members have been permanently banned. OTOH, there is at least one member who posts almost nothing but insults and ridicule and I take it many people think it's funny and harmless. That's unfortunate since this particular member's constant ridicule is not funny or harmless if you are the butt of the joke, especially since the people who are the butt of jokes can't respond without breaking rule whatever number it is.

So I suggest that being able to recognize when a joke is not harmless and everyone isn't laughing would be a good quality for a mod. And being able to recognize when ganging up on someone is going on is important.

I think a good mod would be able to recognize that the discussions where tempers flare are qualitatively different from the posters who ridicule and purposefully try to hurt people's feelings and belittle them. There is always going to be accidental belittling that sometimes happens when people forget themselves and blurt something out maybe they regret later, like when you say something someone said is stupid. Or a person's posts can tend to sound rude but there isn't a pattern of malice there, just an argumentative debater or someone who gets angry but ridicule and insults are not the goal, rather they are reactive. These flare ups need to be stopped when they get out of hand, but they differ from the posts where the intent is to belittle someone and an active argument is not behind it.

It can be hard sometimes to see the difference between an argument where tempers flare and the more bully-like behavior of constantly making fun of someone, which often includes recruiting cheerleaders to make fun of the person the bully is making fun of. I've seen many members here that have been ridiculed on a regular basis. And there are several members who do a lot more ridiculing than simply getting angry in a debate.

Being purposefully nasty and hurtful should not be tolerated. Losing it in an argument in a forum where people are naturally disagreeing with each other OTOH, just needs to be defused. The problem is, if you don't stop the ridicule, it grows and appears acceptable. If you let arguments get out of hand they appear acceptable. I think the mods have been good about defusing arguments. I wouldn't want that job for sure. But the mods here have IMO, been less quick to intervene when ridicule occurs. It makes the forum unpleasant.

Putting people on ignore works for many situations. And there are some posters who seem immune to constant ridicule. The politics forum, for example, has a number of people who continually ridicule each other and for the most part the ridiculees don't appear to be bothered by it. I'm not sure what a mod should do about this. On the one hand, no one may be bothered. On the other hand, allowing the behavior to go on sets a precedent that can be a problem later. So this is a difficult problem for a mod.

And balance is just as difficult. The BAUT forum (Dr Plait's forum) is waay over moderated IMO. It evolved that way when Phil, who was good at managing the board, had to delegate to mods. Or maybe it was because the forum grew too big. Anyway, now so many discussions just don't get interesting because the mods seem to stop all the passion behind a topic.
 
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Q1: I have heard that to ask for any moderator position on any website would actually hurt my chances. How much truth is there to this?
Smart admins realize that anybody who wants to be a mod actively enough to ask for the position is likely to have a screw loose.

Q2: What moderator-related qualifications would likely be desired?
Desired? Be like the person making the decision about who is a mod. Try to be friendly with him or her.

Q3: What personality traits would enhance a moderator's effectiveness?

Q4: What personality traits would reduce a moderator's effectiveness?
Both are silly questions. Personality traits are what you make of them.

Q5: What is the "One Big No-No" that every moderator should avoid?
Every mod, and I mean every mod loses perspective. As soon as you find it difficult to walk away from doing it, it's actually time to walk away. For example, if you go on vacation with your family but keep checking in on your mod duties, something is seriously wrong. Step aside and let some new blood in there.

I would especially like to see replies from current JREF Admins and Mods, but past mods and mods from other websites are also welcome to reply.
Started out as a sysop for several dial-up bulletin boards many years ago and have done various modding ever since.
 
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This could turn into a "Website Moderating for Dummies" guide...

;)
 

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