What is this flag?

[smartcooky]

I was watching a program about Eva Braun tonight, and I saw this flag flying in the background of one of the scenes....

Does anyone recognise this?

 

[Norman Alexander]

Is this possibly it?

http://www.johnnyg.westhost.com/gf102-pic1.JPG

 

[Craig B]

Is this possibly it?

http://www.johnnyg.westhost.com/gf102-pic1.JPG

Looks as if it might be. What Nazi force or organisation used it?

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Probably "Women's Labor".

 

[marplots]

I find the level of Nazi trivia knowledge here simultaneously admirable and disquieting.

 

[Craig B]

Probably "Women's Labor".

Well, the Bund Deutscher Mädel had a very similar flag.

 

[smartcooky]

Looks as if it might be. What Nazi force or organisation used it?

Is this possibly it?

http://www.johnnyg.westhost.com/gf102-pic1.JPG

That looks like it alright

http://www.stewartsmilitaryantiques...ciation-flag-drl-100x170-cm.31241.archive.htm

They call it a "German WWII Sports Association Flag"

 

[Childlike Empress]

Looks as if it might be. What Nazi force or organisation used it?

The text says "Gau VII Schützenkompanie Benneckenstein". It's a sport shooting club ("Schützenverein") that existed since 1752 and still does. Gau 7 is the regional Schützenverein organization for Rheingau in the state of Hessen and also still exists, so the swastika seems to be there out of Zeitgeist without direct Nazi connection (edit: or imposed on all clubs of that kind as smartcooky's post above hints at).

 

[ddt]

Probably "Women's Labor".

An organization for pregnant women? The only female labor the Nazis mucch appreciated was popping out children.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

An organization for pregnant women? The only female labor the Nazis mucch appreciated was popping out children.

Kinder, Küche, Kirche.

 

[Craig B]

An organization for pregnant women? The only female labor the Nazis mucch appreciated was popping out children.

Contrary to general belief, they employed a higher proportion of women workers in industry than the UK did

Germany already had a high rate of female labour at the end of the 1930s and during the war there was a reorganisation of female labourers into military sectors. The first point is of particular importance. The employment of women increased from 1935/6 as a result of the regime's labour policy. The increase was noticeable: From 13% to 19% in the iron, steel and machine industries, from 12% to 29% in electrical engineering and from 18% to 25% in the precision and optical instruments sector. In 1939, the number of employed women stood at 14.8 million or 37.4% In the UK it was ‘only’ 26.4%. During the war the number of women in German industry rose to 51%, however the number of British women in industry rose to just 37.9%.​

http://www.go2war2.nl/artikel/2934/Women-in-Nazi-ideology-and-the-Nazi-economy.htm?page=2

 

[ddt]

The text says "Gau VII Schützenkompanie Benneckenstein". It's a sport shooting club ("Schützenverein") that existed since 1752 and still does. Gau 7 is the regional Schützenverein organization for Rheingau in the state of Hessen and also still exists, so the swastika seems to be there out of Zeitgeist without direct Nazi connection (edit: or imposed on all clubs of that kind as smartcooky's post above hints at).

Probably the latter, or rather, that all shooting clubs were incorporated into one big Nazi organization, as part of the Gleichschaltung. Like all pre-existing (horse) riding clubs which were incorporated into the SS riders corps.

 

[ddt]

Contrary to general belief, they employed a higher proportion of women workers in industry than the UK did

Germany already had a high rate of female labour at the end of the 1930s and during the war there was a reorganisation of female labourers into military sectors. The first point is of particular importance. The employment of women increased from 1935/6 as a result of the regime's labour policy. The increase was noticeable: From 13% to 19% in the iron, steel and machine industries, from 12% to 29% in electrical engineering and from 18% to 25% in the precision and optical instruments sector. In 1939, the number of employed women stood at 14.8 million or 37.4% In the UK it was ‘only’ 26.4%. During the war the number of women in German industry rose to 51%, however the number of British women in industry rose to just 37.9%.​

http://www.go2war2.nl/artikel/2934/Women-in-Nazi-ideology-and-the-Nazi-economy.htm?page=2

Thank you. I didn't know those numbers, nor that the Nazis (temporarily) promoted women in the workplace. Of course, as the article notes, after the war would had been won, women would go back to the kitchen.

 

[Craig B]

Thank you. I didn't know those numbers, nor that the Nazis (temporarily) promoted women in the workplace. Of course, as the article notes, after the war would had been won, women would go back to the kitchen.

I think the figure for women in the workplace was higher in Germany than the UK throughout the period, even before the outbreak of war. I'll check this and get back. The figures are surprising, but in part may be accounted for by the larger size of the agricultural employment sector in Germany than in the UK. Most women in farming families tend to perform agricultural as well as purely domestic work.

These figures are not intended to contain any implication as to the nature of Nazi ideology.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Probably the latter, or rather, that all shooting clubs were incorporated into one big Nazi organization, as part of the Gleichschaltung. Like all pre-existing (horse) riding clubs which were incorporated into the SS riders corps.

Yes, it's the flag of the NS-Reichsbund für Leibesübungen, here's one similar to that of the Schützenverein for a simple gymnastic club.

 

[Craig B]

Here is a note on rates of women in work in the prewar Nazi period.

In 1933 they were successful in passing the Law for Reduction of Unemployment. This law created several policies intended to entice women into leaving the work force. It pushed for women who were married to leave the workforce by offering them low interest loans ... <snip other details of Law> ... This law did not have as significant of an impact as the Nazis predicted, and the employment of women only fell from 37% to 31% over the next 4 years.​

This may be compared with the 1939 UK rate, already noted, of 26.4%. If the German 1939 figure was, as already noted, 37.4%, that is simply a return to the same rate as in 1933, which prevailed prior to the Nazi programme of removal of women from the workforce.

 

[Mike!]

I find the level of Nazi trivia knowledge here simultaneously admirable and disquieting.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[Nihilianth]

Looks as if it might be. What Nazi force or organisation used it?

I was going to say that I didn't think that was quite it, until you posted this link with terrible, low-res photos of it. I was thinking that the flag posted in the OP had too much white in the middle, and thought the black edges would have made the white area look much smaller on such a low-res photo.

Comparing to other low-res photos, the white actually seems to bleed more into the black, and thereby, increasing the surface area of the white.

 

[marplots]

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

All of it? 'Cause I'd like to repeat that part with the cool pants and the shiny boots, but not all that killin' part.

 

[Mike!]

All of it? 'Cause I'd like to repeat that part with the cool pants and the shiny boots, but not all that killin' part.

That's the Catch-22 of it all. In order to repeat it, you have to be ignorant of it, but if you're ignorant of it, how can you know what to repeat?